In our case, in the very first competition WL I've organized with WMPT in
2018, we came to the clear conclusion that at this point a pre-announced
jury does not work, let alone a pre-announced jury taking care of gender
parity and other diversity issues. So we do it, as we say, with the "house
silv
In Estonia, I think we have always published the names of jury members (or
in some cases, their wiki names) in all of the article and image
competitions we've had over the last 10+ years. At least any exceptions
don't come to my mind. So I don't see a problem with the expectation that
jury members
Last year we did publish an overview of how the evaluation/selection
process was organised (in Ukrainian): http://wlm.org.ua/top123_2019/ while
introducing top 123 pictures of the last round (as it was published before
announcing our top 10). I think it also helped to engage people on social
media,
Dear effe,
I consider that Paulo's point is very important to be remembered. A poor
quality jury results in the best images not being selected.
I remember that at a WLM event, the organizer came up with the wonderful
idea of using Facebook likes to choose the best photos. The result was that
the
Hi Mykola,
I would encourage WLX Jury Tool to follow suit and provide a similar option
to give easy openness to its users. There is no obligation to use either or
any tool. This overview is just a convenient way to make it easier for
organizers to be transparent.
Lodewijk
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 a
Sure. The point is already made, anyway.
effe iets anders escreveu no dia sábado,
3/10/2020 à(s) 17:53:
> Hi all,
>
> while I appreciate the efforts of providing examples, I don't think we
> need to dig deep into negative claims about previous competitions. This
> risks going to the level of gos
Hi all,
while I appreciate the efforts of providing examples, I don't think we need
to dig deep into negative claims about previous competitions. This risks
going to the level of gossip-speculation (you're explaining your own
interpretation of what happened) and potentially harms individuals who a
Hi Lodewijk,
As we intend to use WLX Jury Tool and not Montage in Ukraine, what is expected
from us?
We always publish the list of our jury members here: http://wlm.org.ua/juri/ ,
you can see all our jury members between 2012 and 2019. The 2020 list is still
being finalised as we are still wait
Well, the story he told WMF, who believed it hook, line and sinker, was
that in the country it was very difficult to find professional
photographers to be part of the jury (it always is, everywhere, I believe
:P ) and that it would make a great difference there, giving more
credibility to the conte
Well, sounds like a horror story. I would personally never agree to get
monetary reimbursement for participating in a WLM or a WLE jury.
Best regards
Yaroslav
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 6:19 PM Paulo Santos Perneta
wrote:
> Hey Yaroslav,
>
> It is (was) quite easy, actually. Referring to the specif
Hey Yaroslav,
It is (was) quite easy, actually. Referring to the specific case I
mentioned:
- The organizer (who was an ex-WMF staff and member of the international
WLE team) was being paid by WMF to locally organize WL contests;
- The organizer was not transparent about this towards th
Hi Paulo,
I have difficulties parsing your post. For Russia, after we had serious
issues with Wikimedia.ru (who, for example, at some point wanted to
interfere with the decisions of the jury) we converged to symbolic prizes
which we essentially buy out of our own pocket and send them using our own
Forgot to say, but I'm one of the organizers of WLM for WM Portugal.
As for corruption, I must say back in 2016 or around it I was contacted
offwiki on Facebook by a WLE/WLM organizer, enticing me to organize WL in
Portugal, and teaching how to milk the cow. That's how bad the situation
was. I'm g
Hello,
In WLM since 2019 we are totally transparent about the jury members that
help on montage, and usually thank them for their precious help at our blog
post about the competition. Since last year, we have been exchanging jurors
with Tuscany and Wiki Classics, and had a lot of help from Brazil.
Hi all,
After getting feedback both on- and offlist, we arrived at the following:
the Montage developers will make a page available to each jury coordinator,
that they can copy and paste to a wiki page to share their process settings
easily. That way it's easy to be transparent. At some point in t
All great suggestions.
In the past the WLM international team has also maintained a database of
jurors to be backup. We had very little requests in recent years though,
probably because so many people know organizers form other countries. If
you're stuck, I would suggest to either ask someone you
Thank you Yaroslav, I will send you a separate email now!
Having the WLE team setting up a pool of jurors like that was so helpful
Anton. Yes, I could find the names and email other WLM organisers, but this
system took that extra work away from me - which was hugely appreciated,
especially in our
The international WLE team this year has tried to create a database of
jurors from different countries for local contests. We had a Google form
for these purposes (https://forms.gle/Pj61adjgYiE6Jn687) & asked local
teams whether they needed help with jury.
We haven't estimated the results yet, sinc
If WLM Ireland is in September I can help as a juror. If it is in October
this could be more difficult because I am also in the jury for Russia, and
there is typically a lot of work there.
Generally, asking around (may be also on Commons) typically helps. In the
past I have been on jury for a few
Hi, Rebecca!
I have organized multiple WLM/WLE editions in Latvia. We have used Montage
in most of them.
After experiencing problems with jurors dropping out or being known at the
last moment, we created new Wikimedia accounts just for the jury and sent
the passwords to them.
Montage allows some
Hi Lodewijk,
As a slight aside to this, and perhaps something that might help ease some
of the worries around judging processes in other countries, would it be an
idea to have a pool of international WLM Wikimedia jurors that could help
judge other countries? Here in Ireland we have done this with
Hi Alexander,
As for the status of Montage requests: I suggest that you start a separate
thread on that, and would like to leave this to the maintainers to respond
to.
As for publishing the settings: I was imagining some kind of log-style
publication, not a near write-up. This won't be pretty, bu
Dear Lodewijk,
We also intend to publish by default the settings of the montage jury
tool, and the number of photos in each round that the national
competitions have used. We're debating whether there should be an
opt-out for this year.
This is unrealistic, because jury process may involve se
Hi all,
over the past years, we have had various requests to encourage national
organizers to be transparent in their judging processes and who sits on
their jury. Most of the national organizers are currently transparent about
this already. In the past weeks/month, more conversation around this h
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