Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Once concluded, the RFC process revealed the community’s desire to see a new travel project created. The Wikimedia Foundation Board supports the community’s decision and is moving forward with the creation of this new project. Is this a valid announcement from the WMF board before the official

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 6 Sep 2012, at 07:38, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Once concluded, the RFC process revealed the community’s desire to see a new travel project created. The Wikimedia Foundation Board supports the community’s decision and is moving forward with the creation of this new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread James Heilman
The community has unofficially summarized the RfC here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide#Summary_of_arguments But yes the final summary and decision was to be left to the WMF. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-06 Thread Alice Wiegand
Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide : Through the RfC, it is clear our community has reached consensus in favor of the creation of a travel guide. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 6 September 2012 08:18, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: The community has unofficially summarized the RfC here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide#Summary_of_arguments But yes the final summary and decision was to be left to the WMF. Just to follow up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Thomas Morton
Just to note: Everyone (including in the recent board statement) seems to be avoiding mention that this new travel site has come about due to Wiki Travel admins having an interest in moving away from IB, or that it will be seeded with Wiki Travel content. It seems intellectually dishonest to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Thomas Morton
Nonsense; the blog post is the PR release. So, yes, unfortunately I assert bad faith - hiding it in the brief is basically standard misdirection, in my experience. And for a movement dedicated (supposedly) to transparency it is very sad to see. Tom On 6 September 2012 15:03, David Gerard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Deryck Chan
In contrast to Tom's opinion, I believe that WMF has done the right thing - write the blog post in a way so as to create the biggest PR impact within the limits of factual accuracy; and link to the PDF and discussions for the sake of transparency. On 6 September 2012 15:12, Thomas Morton

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-06 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
\o/ Nice! and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... On 6 September 2012 10:21, Alice Wiegand awieg...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Nathan
The Wikitravel site seems to be declining in a hurry, even from what was evidently a sad state just several months ago. The main remaining administrator, an employee who goes by IBobi (IB as in Internet Brands), has limited his actions almost exclusively to arguing with other community members and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 6, 2012 7:27 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Other than in the process of enforcing telecommunications law, is there any way to challenge the presumed immunity of a particular entity under Section 230? It seems to me, as a layperson, that Internet Brand's role in Wikitravel has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 6, 2012 7:27 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Other than in the process of enforcing telecommunications law, is there any way to challenge the presumed immunity of a particular entity under Section 230? It

[Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-09-06 Thread ENWP Pine
Forwarding questions from Research-l with permission, with the hope that these will spark discussion here on Wikimedia-l. RJensen: Comments: I have not seen any editor make actual use of the Article Feedback tool -- are there examples? Yes Wikipedians are very proud of their vast