Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

Hi everyone, 2013/1/9 Amir E. Aharoni : > I believe that Polish and French had special designs for it in the > past, but they appear to be regular now. On the French Wikipedia, It has been bold, white on blue, then green, then we removed everything in 2009¹. > How effective was it? I don't know.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > David Gerard, 09/01/2013 00:32: > > On 8 January 2013 23:27, Kim Bruning wrote: >> >> I think that the requirements for a wiki (open, welcoming, anyone can >>> edit, >>> eventualism) are always going to be at tension vs the requireme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Hi Andreas/Nemo Which column are you looking at to give you the growth numbers on those projects? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > I think that the requirements for a wiki (open, welcoming, anyone can edit, > eventualism) are always going to be at tension vs the requirements for an > encyclopedia (reliable, good sourcing, etc). > > Right now, en.wikipedia rules are more c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 17:24: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: The main pattern, ie a turning point in 2007, is the same in all projects, and almost in all language versions of them: [...] Actually, Nemo, I don't think that is right at all. If you look at the Ger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Hi Andreas/Nemo > > Which column are you looking at to give you the growth numbers on those > projects? > I am mostly looking at the column for editors making more than 100 edits a month, as that is whe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 17:24: > >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: >> >> The main pattern, ie a turning point in 2007, is the same in all >>> projects, >>> and almost in all language versions of them: [.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:24:12 +, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: David Gerard, 09/01/2013 00:32: This has often made people wonder if the causes are external (Facebook? Facebook is also almost non-existing in Russia, right?). Nemo No

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Here are the French charts: > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaFR.htm > Here are the English ones: > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm > I've fixed the link to the English charts: I accidentally gave the French

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

* Andreas Kolbe wrote: >I am mostly looking at the column for editors making more than 100 edits a >month, as that is where the decline in the English Wikipedia has been most >pronounced, from 4804 in March 2007 to 3137 in November 2012. It's when >core editors leave in droves that you start to wor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 18:09: Here are the French charts: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaFR.htm Here are the English ones: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaFR.htm Compare the third and fourth charts (for editors making more than 5 and more than 100 edits per month re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Hello, I agree totally with Tim's assessments of the situation, and it is quite the same on the French WP, and that's why I stopped editing there. Some people like power more than anything else (well, that's not surprising, because it is quite the same IRL), including the growth of the project. H

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 18:09: > > Here are the French charts: >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**ChartsWikipediaFR.htm >> Here are the English ones: >> http://stats.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:59:28 +0100, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Yaroslav M. Blanter, 10/01/2013 18:11: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:24:12 +, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: No, incorrect. Facebook exists in Russia and is somehow popular, though

[Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: WMF Metrics/Activities Meeting Begins in 30 Minutes

REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Praveena Maharaj Date: Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:16 AM Subject: *** DATE CHANGE *** Invitation to WMF December 2012 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, Jan. 10, 19:00 UTC To: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:34:46 +0530, Yann Forget wrote: Hello, I agree totally with Tim's assessments of the situation, and it is quite the same on the French WP, and that's why I stopped editing there. Happy New Year to all, Yann Welcome to the club. I retired from Russian Wikipedia about t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 19:21: > Open these two pages: > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaFR.htm > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm > > Each has four bar charts with yellow bars. Ignore the top two charts. Focus > on the third and fourth charts with yellow bars

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 19:21: > > > Open these two pages: > > > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**ChartsWikipediaFR.htm > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**ChartsWikipediaEN.htm

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia engineering December 2012 report

Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in December 2012 is now available. Wiki version: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/December Blog version: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/10/engineering-december-2012-report/ We're also proposing a shorter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

On vi.wikipedai.org the non mainspaces are green - maybe just a tab like that? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jérémie Roquet wrote: > Hi everyone, > > 2013/1/9 Amir E. Aharoni : > > I believe that Polish and French had special designs for it in the > > past, but they appear to be regular now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Featuring the edit tab in Vector (by making it red)

The correct link is vi.wikipedia.org This vi.wikipedAI.org domain should be checked out by Legal at WMF, though... Best regards, Bence On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Mono wrote: > On vi.wikipedai.org the non mainspaces are green - maybe just a tab like > that? > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On 11/01/13 03:58, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Andreas Kolbe, 10/01/2013 17:24: >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: >> >>> The main pattern, ie a turning point in 2007, is the same in >>> all projects, and almost in all language versions of them: >>> [...] >> >> Actua

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

Hi. As I understand it, many Wikimedia Foundation employees are required to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA). Is there a copy of the current version of this non-disclosure agreement anywhere? I briefly checked Meta-Wiki and wikimediafoundation.org, but didn't see anything off-hand. (I did co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

Hi, This is the Wikimedia UK version: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non_Disclosure_Agreement Also relevant may be this discussion: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler/2012#Comparison_of_UK_NDA_with_WMF_NDA , Salvidrim -Original Message- From: MZMcBride Sent: Thursday, Ja

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

Salvidrim wrote: >This is the Wikimedia UK version: >http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non_Disclosure_Agreement > >Also relevant may be this discussion: >http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler/2012#Comparison_of_UK_NDA_with_W >MF_NDA Thanks for the links. :-) I started an index page at