Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

I am possibly failing to see the point of this part of the discussion. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:14 AM, FT2 wrote: >- *If the IP is "sufficiently clearly connected" to the individual >behind the Alice account*, It is not and possibly almost never will. However I fail to see how people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:39 AM, Pierre-Selim wrote: > Just a question: Why imposing HTTPS ? Really, it will be damaging The reason why is outlined in Ryan's blog post as well as his previous post and the Wikipedia entry on https linked from that post. The short answer is the current state is know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

Just a question: Why imposing HTTPS ? Really, it will be damaging ... "Wikipedia the encyclopedia that anyone (which has HTTPS) can edit (as logged user)". Sorry, HTTPS is nice, but I see no reason to force people using it, it might be slow in certain country, it might be filtered, etc. Thank you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

One comment on the original link is worth some eyeballs: *"If IP address blocking is a legally binding way of banning a user, does that establish that an IP address must be considered 'personally identifying information' for privacy policies and related purposes?"* The logic seems solid (although

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Nathan wrote: > > > Hi, context please? > > > > > Continuation of this thread from wikitech-l: > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/thread.html#71285 > > > tl;dr summary: > * ops pl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

We could hire expert staff to deal with serious socking by dangerous or highly disruptive users. Their wages would be the damage. Fred > An additional issue, if we're still talking CFAA's private right of > action, > is where would the minimum damage requirements come from? > > -Dan > > Dan Rosen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

An additional issue, if we're still talking CFAA's private right of action, is where would the minimum damage requirements come from? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Nathan wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > > Discussed several times

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for Wikipedians to add already translated articles

A big thank you to all the translations from TWB and for you James for organizing that, this is a great project and awesome results! Thanks! JP Béland aka Amqui 2013/8/20 James Heilman > We at WikiProject Medicine are working on a collaborative effort with > Translators Without Borders (TWB),

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Discussed several times with no clear outcome. > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-January/123678.html > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] law enforcement buying vulnerabilities on black market & leaving them unreported for surveillance

That the FBI has been buying security vulnerability exploits on the black market for several tens of thousands of dollars each, leaving them unreported and unpatched for use in surveillance, is by far the worst of the privacy revelations of past months. Even the worst plausible NSA abuses from X-KE

[Wikimedia-l] Looking for Wikipedians to add already translated articles

We at WikiProject Medicine are working on a collaborative effort with Translators Without Borders (TWB), a group which includes 2,000 or so volunteer translators. We are working to translate key medical articles into as many other languages as possible. Currently we have translated content into 50

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

Discussed several times with no clear outcome. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-January/123678.html

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY >> >> I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please >> do >> set me straight. > > You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would > be easier for jaywalking in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Nathan wrote: > Hi, context please? > Continuation of this thread from wikitech-l: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/thread.html#71285 tl;dr summary: * ops plans to switch logins to HTTPS * switching all logins to HTTPS is known to br

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

Hi, context please? On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, George William Herbert wrote: > > +foundation-l > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > >> This is an acceptable trade-off which we've allowed the Chinese government >> to make for us before, and here we're talking about a much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] HTTPS for logged in users on Wednesday August 21st

+foundation-l On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > This is an acceptable trade-off which we've allowed the Chinese government > to make for us before, and here we're talking about a much smaller effect > (on contributors only). > > Again, it's not our business to fix China. China

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

That's exactly what Ziko is talking about: Hierarchy really 'reverts' users into real people, but moreover - it gives them power to command the resources (people and money are just resources for many of 'commanders'), and politics - how to gain ASAP and then to keep ...ALAP (as long as possible) th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

yep. i strongly agree 'an understanding of some basic concepts and ideas' is really important, i believe but what-makes-wikiworld-go just doesn't seem to work within a 'formal' organization i wonder if a 'visible' hierarchy 'reverts' users into ordinary people... ziko, thank you for sharing this!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

Yes MZ, agreed that this is would be good to have documented on meta. In fact this has been raised in our internal discussion already. At the moment one of my side projects is a major overhaul of the fundraising pages on meta, and I plan to incorporate aims and principles into this prominently. I'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

Sue: I also hate the idea of premiums. We will never want to do lame "premiums". But there may in the future be a cool thing to offer with donations, who knows -- so why limit ourselves by saying we will "never ever" do something? Zack On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

Hello Ziko, I like your diary very much and I just love your point regarding "fundamental lack of political education among the activists". Regards, Pavlo On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Dear friends of free knowledge, > > Over the past days I have been approached by m

[Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

Dear friends of free knowledge, Over the past days I have been approached by many of you with kind remarks on the experimental WCA year; actually, I am fine and looking forward to finish some work discussed on in Hong Kong. (Let yourself be surprised. :-) ) Thank you, and see you again soon in Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] law enforcement buying vulnerabilities on black market & leaving them unreported for surveillance

I aggree with JP Béland: the computer security obviously affects the Wikimedia users, but imho we shouldn’t do more than we can and let the responsability of their own security to the users -- although we should contribute for a decent security. For the specific topic you brought about 0-da