[Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Hey, Don't worry, we indeed have a lot of time till the next elections, but as this issue had been raised during the last elections - and we decided that we can't change the rules few weeks before the elections, now I want to raise the discussion enough time before. According to the current

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Itzik, If I understand you correctly, you are asking about whether WMF and thematic organization bylaws should allow employees to vote in trustee elections for their own orgs. I can see how this could create interesting conflict-of-interest problems. However, in all non-autocratic republics

[Wikimedia-l] Quarterly review for Grantmaking

2014-10-05 Thread Pine W
Tilman, thanks for those notes. There was discussion awhile ago about involving the community in quarterly reviews, and I have some questions and comments about this review, mostly for Lila. However, I would like to see the notes from the group mentioned at the end of the quarterly review before

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Itzik - Wikimedia Israel
Pine, As far as I know, government employees in most of the countries can vote only if they are citizens. So yes, of course we are not taking there democratic voice. As I didn't said a staff member can't vote because he is a staff member. Just saying that it is not enough to be a staff member in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] product roadmap

2014-10-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Article review is important. The argument presented is that it needs action in the light of fewer people involved in article review. The reality is that at present only a subset of the articles are reviewed and only in a few Wikipedias. In addition to this, these people all use fixed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The title should be WMF Board of Trustee elections. Itzik - Wikimedia Israel, 05/10/2014 09:40: For example, last elections there were 1809 valid votes. And this is the issue we should be talking about: the ~99.5 % abstention rate.* By comparison, the number of WMF staff this days is 218,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Richard Symonds
Is there a way in which people who volunteer, but not through editing or coding, can vote? For example, Wikimania volunteers from this year, or those who volunteer time with financial or administrative matters rather than through adding content? On 5 Oct 2014 11:44, Federico Leva (Nemo)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: (*) No official numbers exist... but I already opened one thread on transparency this week. Just to clarify so that I know what you're looking and can try and prioritize it. You are looking for the total number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Craig Franklin
I think the issue is that the employee vote is now a significant proportion of the electorate. When this was originally set up, nobody complained too loudly about giving WMF staff the vote simply because their numbers were small and they were too small a constituency to sway the result on their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread James Alexander
A completely un deduped (and so is double+ counting anyone who is eligible on multiple wikis because of activity there) number is 207911 for 2013. Caveats: This number is quick and dirty and 'reasonable' as a starting point but far from perfect, among other things: - It doesn't include 100%

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Pine, As far as I know, government employees in most of the countries can vote only if they are citizens. So yes, of course we are not taking there democratic voice. As I didn't said a staff member can't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread James Alexander
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: I think the issue is that the employee vote is now a significant proportion of the electorate. When this was originally set up, nobody complained too loudly about giving WMF staff the vote simply because their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly review for Grantmaking

2014-10-05 Thread Tilman Bayer
(For other readers: Pine appears to refer to the publication of the minutes from the quarterly review meeting for the Wikimedia Foundation's Grantmaking team, announced in a separate thread at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-October/074824.html ) On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 1:14

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First Wikipedia Article has been Formally Peer Reviewed and Published

2014-10-05 Thread Lila Tretikov
James -- this is really great, thank you for sharing. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:24 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Article published by the journal Open Medicine http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/viewFile/562/564 Will soon be pubmed indexed. Editorial regarding the efforts are here

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Pine W
How are we doing on SUL finalization anyway? If I remember correctly the lead on this is Dan so I'm pinging him. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 05.10.2014 14:24, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Pine, IMO the minimum thresholds should be set at levels such that any staff member who has employed for a reasonable period of time is likely to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Risker
On 5 October 2014 13:35, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 05.10.2014 14:24, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel it...@wikimedia.org.il wrote: Pine, IMO the minimum thresholds should be set at levels such that any staff

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly review for Grantmaking

2014-10-05 Thread Risker
I do not think it is a good idea to have community members directly involved in these meetings. First off, any community member who participates is in no way representative of the broad international community as a whole, so granting individuals access gives them a radically disproportionate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly review for Grantmaking

2014-10-05 Thread Pine W
I agree to a point. I think if we had some carefully chosen people involved, like a representative from the FDC in the case of Grantmaking, or a representative from the proposed Technology Committee in the case of a Product or Engineering team, there might be some value. I agree though that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-10-05 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from Wednesday's quarterly review meeting of the Foundation's Core features (Flow) team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Core_features/October_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-10-05 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from Wednesday's quarterly review meeting of the Foundation's Editing (formerly VisualEditor) team can now be found at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Editing/October_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising reports after 2011

2014-10-05 Thread Lisa Gruwell
Thanks for the timely question! We are actually just double checking the numbers in our FY 2013-14 Fundraising Report right now. We are aiming to publish it toward the end of the week. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:56 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: that would be indeed valuable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 10/05/2014 08:24 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: I checked a few of the WMF admin staff who have been employed more than a year, and many dont look likely to reach the 300 threshold, even with wikitech and foundation wikis included. An interesting question, I think, is /whether/ anyone from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Risker
On 5 October 2014 20:51, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 10/05/2014 08:24 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: I checked a few of the WMF admin staff who have been employed more than a year, and many dont look likely to reach the 300 threshold, even with wikitech and foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Dan Garry
On 5 October 2014 10:00, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: How are we doing on SUL finalization anyway? If I remember correctly the lead on this is Dan so I'm pinging him. Hey Pine, Progress is pretty good. As noted in Erik's presentation at Monthly Metrics last Thursday, we're wrapping up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Pine W
Thanks Dan. Can you share an approximate completion date? (What is with half of the WMF staff responding to routine emails on weekends? All you workaholics and overachievers...) :) Pine On Oct 5, 2014 8:55 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 5 October 2014 10:00, Pine W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Dan Garry
On 5 October 2014 22:08, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dan. Can you share an approximate completion date? Not at this stage, I'm afraid. I will only give a date when I can say with some confidence that we can meet it, and there are too many free variables for me to be able to say

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2014-10-05 Thread Dan Garry
Just to reiterate, the engineering work is almost done. We do plan to begin the community engagement and announcements in 2014, but it's going to take a while to make sure everyone's contacted and to give them time to digest the announcement and act accordingly. As we're almost done with the