Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-10-06 16:21, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: To be honest, I can not recollect a single instance WMF people ever apologized to the community for any decision, even when it was immediately clear that they screwed up badly (like removing admin rights on WMF Wiki etc). I do not expect it this tim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Republic of Srpska

2015-10-06 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 06/Ott/2015 23:11, "Asaf Bartov" ha scritto: > > (As a courtesy for the possibly-confused: [[Republika Srpska > ]].) I have to say that it took me a while. Congrats to the new group! Cristian ___ Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Ellie Young
I believe we all know now by now that the Committee regrets the delay in posting a recommendation about the process change for venues/hosts for Wikimania. There was no intention to blindside anyone or to not seek input from the community. We should have updated the bid timeline to reflect that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > Given that enWP alone has 123,540 active editors as of this morning,[1] it’s > not exactly a stretch… What percentage of those are credible stakeholders in Wikimania? How many are going to be eligible for Wikimania scholarships? How many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Republic of Srpska

2015-10-06 Thread Asaf Bartov
(As a courtesy for the possibly-confused: [[Republika Srpska ]].) A. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I have the honor to announce the > recognition of a new Wikime

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Republic of Srpska

2015-10-06 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all, On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I have the honor to announce the recognition of a new Wikimedia User Group in Eastern Europe: the Wikimedians of Republic of Srpska. Among their goals are, apart from expanding the community of contributors in the Republic of Srpska, introdu

[Wikimedia-l] Community Reviewers needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

2015-10-06 Thread Chris Schilling
Hey folks, Proposals for the current round of Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) applications are now available, and include many great ideas: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-join Grant applicants are seeking feedback on these proposals from contributors like yourself through Oct.

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia MA User Group

2015-10-06 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Dear all, I am honored to announce the recognition of another Wikimedia User Group from the Middle East and North Africa: Wikimedia MA User Group [1]. They seek to contribute actively to the dissemination, improvement and advancement of free knowledge and culture through the development and d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation forward

2015-10-06 Thread Pete Forsyth
Gnangarra, you're attaching a great deal of significance to a small detail in a complex situation. But please do look at the broader picture: - The chair of the Wikimania Committee has acknowledged that the Montreal selection is not confirmed.[1] - The supervisor of the committee's WMF re

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the community review of 11 annual plan grants proposals to the FDC

2015-10-06 Thread Katy Love
Hello, Wikimedians! I want to share with you that the community review period for the Annual Plan Grants (APG) program is underway for eleven proposals. These organizations are requesting unrestricted funding to support their annual plans, including both programmatic and operational costs. These r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Given that enWP alone has 123,540 active editors as of this morning,[1] it’s not exactly a stretch… -greg [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias > On Oct 6, 2015, at 3:14 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > > Do you really believe the community consists of several 100.000 people? > Am 0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Joseph Fox
If you want the views of everyone on every project... then yes, I do. On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 20:14 MF-Warburg wrote: > Do you really believe the community consists of several 100.000 people? > Am 06.10.2015 21:01 schrieb "Joseph Fox" : > > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 17:27 Steinsplitter Wiki < > > st

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread MF-Warburg
Do you really believe the community consists of several 100.000 people? Am 06.10.2015 21:01 schrieb "Joseph Fox" : > On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 17:27 Steinsplitter Wiki < > steinsplitter-w...@live.com> > wrote: > > > To be honest: I am not surprised at all. > > > > Wikimedia Foundation is becoming moor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Joseph Fox
On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 17:27 Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > To be honest: I am not surprised at all. > > Wikimedia Foundation is becoming moor and moor centralized. They no longer > care about the community, even if there is huge community consensus about > something. > > Why is there a secret commit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation forward

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
interesting suggestions Pete but the published timeline is based on the published process which has now been marked as obsolete/historical. We also know none of that process had been followed nor was there any intention to follow that process. Are you seriously suggesting people continue to put tim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
> I trust in a small number of capable and active people trusted with a > concrete task. Seriously? I trust the community. Imho the community has more trust then a small group of functionary's. Apart from that, i agree with Steffen Prößdorf (thanks for posting your concerns). --Stein > Date

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
To be honest: I am not surprised at all. Wikimedia Foundation is becoming moor and moor centralized. They no longer care about the community, even if there is huge community consensus about something. Why is there a secret committee needed? It is easier to ask the community. I am disappointed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Yaroslav > To be honest, I can not recollect a single instance WMF people ever >> apologized to the community for any decision, even when it was immediately >> clear that they screwed up badly (like removing admin rights on WMF Wiki >> etc). > > I think it's worth remembering one time they did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on carrying the Wikimania conversation forward

2015-10-06 Thread Pete Forsyth
All: Based on a number of the posts in this thread, I think a few points are worth underscoring. 1. The Wikimania Jury (historical -- and for what it's worth, I was a member) and Wikimania Committee (present) have never had a strong mandate. Its recommendations have generally been accept

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-10-06 16:27, Richard Symonds wrote: Yaroslav, To be fair to Ellie (and speaking as an outsider), she is extremely busy and usually answers direct emails quite quickly, but doesn't usually get involved in big community discussion threads on mailing lists because she spends a lot of he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Richard Symonds
Yaroslav, To be fair to Ellie (and speaking as an outsider), she is extremely busy and usually answers direct emails quite quickly, but doesn't usually get involved in big community discussion threads on mailing lists because she spends a lot of her time travelling (and thus, I suspect,using a mob

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-10-06 06:25, Gnangarra wrote: This has been going on for three days, yet not one person involved in this decision has take a moment to reachout personally to the people who worked on bids, They have tabled justifications on list discussions, they have changed the status of Meta pages bu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Spain board

2015-10-06 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-10-04 23:25 GMT+02:00 Santiago Navarro : > President: Santiago Navarro > Vice-president: Jorge Sierra > Secretary: Luis Ulzurrun > Treasurer: Miguel Ángel García > Board member: David Abián > Board member: Diego Delso > Board member: Jesús Tramullas > Board member: José Emilio Mori > Board mem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
On 6 October 2015 at 15:15, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Theoretically you are right, you COULD restart the process for a next year. > That is quite a professional attitude. Ask yourself, is that the kind of > effort you can ask of volunteers.. Be reasonable. It is too much effort for > what b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost

2015-10-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Theoretically you are right, you COULD restart the process for a next year. That is quite a professional attitude. Ask yourself, is that the kind of effort you can ask of volunteers.. Be reasonable. It is too much effort for what benefit ? Thanks, GerardM On 6 October 2015 at 01:18, MZM