Re: [Wikimedia-l] Arbital, another Wikipedia competitor/complement

2016-03-13 Thread Oliver Keyes
Aye, the user-assessment model is kind of interesting, but agreed. When I think "who can explain complex things in relateable terms?", my answer has never been (and will never be) Bayesians. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: > They have correctly identified that a lot of our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Arbital, another Wikipedia competitor/complement

2016-03-13 Thread Craig Franklin
They have correctly identified that a lot of our articles on scientific concepts are jargon-filled babble that is unintelligible to anyone who isn't already an expert in the field (and if they're an expert, why are they consulting an encyclopaedia?), but I'm not that confident that Yudkowsky of all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Arbital, another Wikipedia competitor/complement

2016-03-13 Thread Oliver Keyes
I for one look forward to the open and inclusive educational experience provided by people who collectively lose their shit when presented with a highly improbable AI thought experiment[0] [0] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:03 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Bei

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Neil P. Quinn
As another data point, I joined the WMF last April and there was no non-disparagement clause in my employment agreement. I suspect that at some point someone realized it wasn't much good and dropped it from the standard agreement, but older employees like Oliver were never given an updated agreemen

[Wikimedia-l] Arbital, another Wikipedia competitor/complement

2016-03-13 Thread David Gerard
Being put together by Eliezer Yudkowsky of LessWrong. Content is cc-by-sa 3.0, don't know about the software. https://arbital.com/p/arbital_ambitions/ Rather than the "encyclopedia" approach, it tries to be more pedagogical, teaching the reader at their level. Analysis from a sometime Yudkowsky

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Oliver Keyes
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:08 PM Antoine Musso wrote: > >> >> To the best of my knowledge such agreements are not public, but honestly >> there is no conspiracy behind that. There are public clues though: >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-13 Thread Anna Stillwell
I enabled it last week and found two new messages. Thank you. Very useful. /a On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:31 AM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Finally it is here! Now I don't miss conversations that are happening > elsewhere. > I know that many don't like it, but combined with Flow it works like a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > > In mid-2013, the legal team put the standard employee NDA clauses, and a > couple others, on-wiki at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreements#Wikimedia_Foundation.27s_non-disclosure_agreements > > Luis ​Thanks, Luis.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Alex Monk
On 13 March 2016 at 20:07, Antoine Musso wrote: > Volunteers (ie neither staff or contractors) might have to sign a NDA > whenever they get privileged access. The process is on: > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_NDA > > What I suspect is granting public read access to the NDA would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Luis Villa
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:08 PM Antoine Musso wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge such agreements are not public, but honestly > there is no conspiracy behind that. There are public clues though: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_information_policy > https://wikitech.w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 13/03/2016 03:09, Andreas Kolbe a écrit : > things like standard boilerplate language to be signed by >> > all employees doesn't strike me as something in and of itself to be kept >> > private - there is a valid interest in showing that our policies are >> > fair and humane for employees, respon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

2016-03-13 Thread jytdog
Hm.. in my experience, legal departments focus above all on managing risk on behalf of their clients and using the legal system to the maximal benefit of the organization of which they are a part. In my view, putting Transparency in Legal is a recipe for minimal disclosure, not maximal. The Trans

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: Is it going to be once every two years?

2016-03-13 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
I was reacting to Gerard , i did not necessarily take into account the preceding exchange I was talking about the wikipedia in a more general fashion and that refernce to religion was a paraphrased quotation from prof J.De Mul I sorry if it did indeed leap from the RFC to a more general w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: Is it going to be once every two years?

2016-03-13 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
I wholeheartedly agree with Gerard. During the conference by the KNAW ( academy of sciences) in Amsterdam when the Wikipedia community received from HM Willem Alexander of the Netherlands the Erasmusaward Philosofy Professer Jos De Mul ( Erasmus university of Rotterdam) , who specialises in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-13 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Finally it is here! Now I don't miss conversations that are happening elsewhere. I know that many don't like it, but combined with Flow it works like a charm :) Thanks Micru On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Biplab Anand wrote: > This is amazing. > Thanks. > On 13 Mar 2016 03:20, "Andy Mabbett"

[Wikimedia-l] Release of FY2015-2016 Q2 Quarterly Report

2016-03-13 Thread Gregory Varnum
Greetings, I am pleased to announce that the Quarterly Report for Fiscal Year 2015-2016 Quarter 2 - covering October-December 2015 - is now available on Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Quarterly_Report,_FY_2015-16_Q2_%28October-December%29.pdf A blo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: Is it going to be once every two years?

2016-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi When this is it, when these people get away with it, their behaviour is as bad as much of what we have seen lately. I do not care who they are. There is too much going where people decide on policies and effectively destroy our culture., We do no longer care about our quality, it is all about