Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Oh, and similar to WereSpielChequers, I agree that better enforcement methods would be far more useful than spending staff time and money worrying about the codes of conduct. I understand that they are all the rage on the west coast of the US these days, but it's not going to help us finally stop

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Similar to Vito, the safe space/code of conduct crowd has never demonstrated that any of these principles are not already held and enforced across our projects. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Vi to wrote: > Same here, ofc. > I still cannot understand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Vi to
Same here, ofc. I still cannot understand how there could be online communities refusing these very basic principles. Vito 2016-11-21 0:57 GMT+01:00 Alex Monk : > On 20 November 2016 at 13:35, Jonathan Cardy > wrote: > > > > The nastiest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Alex Monk
On 20 November 2016 at 13:35, Jonathan Cardy wrote: > > The nastiest trolling, personal attacks and certainly the rape and murder > threats will get people blocked anywhere in the movement except maybe, > definitely in the past but hopefully not today, on IRC. > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I'm partly in agreement with Pine, this is more about policy than a bug and it should be being discussed on meta not phabricator. I disagree with Pine re the IRC channels. If the people running a particular IRC channel want it to continue as the recommended channel from a particular Wikimedia