[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Open Letter to Maryana Iskander

2022-04-11 Thread Maryana Iskander
Hi Frederick - Nice to hear from you again. I look forward to reading the letter. Maryana On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 9:19 PM Frederick Noronha < fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/01/an-open-letter-to-maryana-iskander/ > > -- > >

[Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Maryana Iskander

2022-04-11 Thread Frederick Noronha
https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/01/an-open-letter-to-maryana-iskander/ -- April 2022 | Frederick Noronha. 784 Saligao 403511 Goa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | M (after 2pm) +91 9822122436 Twitter @fn 1

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

2022-04-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Maggie, As you correctly noted, I lost a verb there. What I meant to say was: "How can they be prevented from inserting erroneous material without causing them to doubt their own perceptions etc. in a way that they may well – in good faith – *feel* is malicious?" We have this all the time: people

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter on negating race and ethnicity as "meaningful distinctions" in the UCoC

2022-04-11 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, What does the incriminated sentence actually mean? "The Wikimedia movement does not endorse "race" and "ethnicity" as meaningful distinctions among people." Does this mean that * the WM is against; or * that the WM is neutral on the topic? And, after reading the English Wikipedia article

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

2022-04-11 Thread Maggie Dennis
I have been working on the UCoC about as long as anybody, if not as intensely as some. Hence, I have some confidence in saying that it is the Foundation's role to shepherd the Movement Strategy recommendation to reality in creating a baseline of behavioral standards that are movement-wide. *I* have

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter on negating race and ethnicity as "meaningful distinctions" in the UCoC

2022-04-11 Thread Dan Szymborski
It's almost as if ratifying an incomplete document based on vague framework and future changes is a terrible idea. That this is coming up now is not the least bit surprising. It was brought up, along with many things, during one of the arbitrarily endpointed "discussion" periods that involved peop

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter on negating race and ethnicity as "meaningful distinctions" in the UCoC

2022-04-11 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 18:36:12 +0100 Anasuya Sengupta wrote: > Tl;dr Urgent need to address the note denying race and ethnicity as > “meaningful distinctions among people” in the Universal Code of Conduct > (UCoC). The current wording is highly problematic and can result in > endorsing systemic and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

2022-04-11 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Maggie, Could I ask you for help with a couple of things: 1. The UCoC states that "sharing information concerning other contributors' Wikimedia activity outside the projects" is harassment. Is it really the WMF's intention to prohibit public discussions of controversial editing? To give some

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

2022-04-11 Thread Maggie Dennis
Let me clarify a few points. - The vote was intended to surface what concerns might exist more broadly in the international communities, not all of whom engage in Meta discussions. Staff were neither asked to convince people to vote for the enforcement guidelines as written nor even en

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

2022-04-11 Thread Yair Rand
Our conduct policies were carefully crafted by hundreds of brilliant people over the course of twenty years, building upon endless experience and detailed discussions that could fill books upon books. The UCoC Project ... seems to be built to supersede all that we've built in this area, with an ex

[Wikimedia-l] Announcing a new podcast, Inspiring Open

2022-04-11 Thread Florence Devouard
Hello everyone _Short version : _ we launched a new podcast in March. *From tech gurus to authors, educators to activists, the Inspiring Open podcast draws wisdom and insights from women who intersect the 'open movement' and inspire with their thoughts and actions. On all your favorite podcast