[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Peter Southwood
“Not citing sources is probably a conscious design choice, as citing sources would mean sharing the sources used to train the language models” This may be a choice that comes back to bite them. Without citing their sources, they are unreliable as a source for anything one does not know already.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Subhashish
Just to clarify, my point was not about Getty to begin with. Whether Getty would win and whether a big corporation should own such a large amount of visual content are questions outside this particular thread. It would certainly be interesting to see how things roll. But AI/ML is way more than jus

[Wikimedia-l] New Signpost issue 4 February 2023

2023-02-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Signpost – Volume 19, Issue 3 – 4 February 2023 -- >From the editor: New for the Signpost: Author pages, tag pages, and a decent article search function http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-04/From_the_editor

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Todd Allen
I'm not so sure Getty's got a case, though. If the images are on the Web, is using them to train an AI something copyright would cover? That to me seems more equivalent to just looking at the images, and there's no copyright problem in going to Getty's site and just looking at a bunch of their pict

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Subhashish
Not citing sources is probably a conscious design choice, as citing sources would mean sharing the sources used to train the language models. Getty has just sued Stability AI, alleging the use of 12 million photographs without permission or compensation. Imagine if Stability had to purchase from Ge

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Peter Southwood
>From what I have seen the AIs are not great on citing sources. If they start >citing reliable sources, their contributions can be verified, or not. If they >produce verifiable, adequately sourced, well written information, are they a >problem or a solution? Cheers, Peter From: Gnangarra [

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia UK Strategic Report for 21/22

2023-02-04 Thread Wasi
Awesome!! Very unique way to publish a report. Wasi On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:03 PM Lucy Crompton-Reid < lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Dear all > > > Wikimedia UK has just published our Strategic Report for the financial > year 2021/22. Excitingly, this is our first fully digital f

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 724, Issue 1

2023-02-04 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Thanks very much Andreas and João! Mike, there is quite a lot of text and additional case studies and images. You need to click into the different sections to see that. I've attached a few screenshots which hopefully illuminate this a bit :) Best Lucy On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 16:23, wrote: > Se

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Block of Wikipedia in Pakistan

2023-02-04 Thread John S.
Thank you for the update. Please continue to keep us informed. John S. Den lör 4 feb. 2023 kl 02:45 skrev Stephen LaPorte : > Hello everyone, > > Today, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) ordered that access > to Wikipedia be suspended in Pakistan. We are urging the Pakistan > govern

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Mustafa Kabir
mk0705...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 4, 2023, 8:24 PM Adam Sobieski wrote: > Brainstorming on how to drive traffic to Wikimedia content from > conversational media, UI/UX designers could provide menu items or buttons > on chatbots' applications or webpage components (e.g., to read more about > the co

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Kimmo Virtanen
Hi, I think the Wikimedia community is generally well-positioned to create high-quality training data for machine learning models. So, improving the crowdsourcing of wikidata and structured data is essential for making this easy-to-use curated training data. So, the focus should be on making data

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Mustafa Kabir
mk0705...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 4, 2023, 1:01 PM Steven Walling wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:47 PM Gergő Tisza wrote: > >> Just to give a sense of scale: OpenAI started with a $1 billion donation, >> got another $1B as investment, and is now getting a larger investment from >> Microsof

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Gnangarra
I see our biggest challenge is going to be detecting these AI tools adding content whether it's media or articles, along with identifying when they are in use by sources. The failing of all new AI is not in its ability but in the lack of transparency with that being able to be identified by the re

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Adam Sobieski
Brainstorming on how to drive traffic to Wikimedia content from conversational media, UI/UX designers could provide menu items or buttons on chatbots' applications or webpage components (e.g., to read more about the content, to navigate to cited resources, to edit the content, to discuss the con

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Block of Wikipedia in Pakistan

2023-02-04 Thread Lane Chance
Thank you for making a statement. Could the WMF please publish the take down order (on-wiki)? I understand that take down orders are not normally considered confidential or private, though there may be reasons for you to publish a redacted version. There are obvious benefits to volunteers taking

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Victoria Coleman
Hi Christophe,I had not thought about the threat to Wikipedia traffic from Chat GPT but you have a good point. The success of the projects is always one step away from the next big disruption. So the WMF as the tech provider for the mission (because first and foremost in my view that?s what the WMF

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi,On the product side, NLP based AI biggest concern to me is that it would drastically decrease traffic to our websites/apps. Which means less new editors ans less donations. So first from a strictly positioning perspective, we have here a major change that needs to be managed.And to be honest, it

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

2023-02-04 Thread Adam Sobieski
With respect to cloud computing costs, these being a significant component of the costs to train and operate modern AI systems, as a non-profit organization, the Wikimedia Foundation might be interested in the National Research Cloud (NRC) policy proposal: https://hai.stanford.edu/policy/nationa