Re: [Wikimedia-l] Question: How much does administration in Chapters cost the Wikimedia movement?

2013-04-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Delphine Ménard wrote: > Hello, > > Over the years I have always found extremely interesting how Wikimedia > in general is extremely reticent to "paying" people to "do" things. It > makes sense in a volunteer culture, even more sense in *our* volunteer > culture s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Tweet this page" from some or all sites???

2013-04-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 19 April 2013 01:43, Matthew Roth wrote: > >> First, note that most of the really popular social networking sites have >> boilerplate language in the Terms of Service that are incompatible with < > Worth a small public grumble on the blog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Tweet this page" from some or all sites???

2013-04-18 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Amical Viquipèdia Report, March 2013

2013-04-17 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lack of community involvement in WMF budget planning

2013-04-17 Thread Samuel Klein
possible, can we at least know why? > > -- > Tomasz W. Kozłowski > a.k.a. [[user:odder]] > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein w:user:sj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LangCom work now fully transparent

2013-04-17 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal to use the internal wiki more

2013-04-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Mike - fine points. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > There is information within the Wikimedia movement that can't be shared > publicly. > # Agreements, particularly those with global impact, and/or where they affect > more than one Wikimedia organisation. Should be public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL new Executive Director

2013-04-09 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Armenia

2013-03-27 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Glossary vs. Glossaries

2013-03-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mar 22, 2013 10:34 AM, "Mathieu Stumpf" writes: > > Note that your solutions are not exclusives, we may as well chose to distribute ressources in each, so we have a working but not great solution right now, an easily implementable better solution on mean term, and a great solution on the long te

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
xed reception to AFT5. I hope that program > managers at WMF learn both good practices and what > to avoid. I also hope that WMF ties program metrics > to evaluations for the responsible supervisors when > considering whether to continue or renew > employment contracts, as well as when

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
Heather Ford wrote: > We're all, in our own way, trying to help Wikimedia grow and flourish. The > truth > is that we have different ideas about how to get there. +1. Thanks to all who commented on this thread. Tomasz Ganicz writes: > this situation is unclear at the moment. I think this > is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: >> Dogfooding our product is great but shouldnt' be done "just because" it >> should be done where the product makes sense for the task. Supporting more flexible designs - particularly in the realm of extensions - would be good for Mediawiki in t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
Hi Mathieu, Debian's Open Use Logo policy is a good example to consider. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Attribution correction : the quote below is from Marc P. > Le 2013-03-19 19:59, Samuel Klein a écrit : << [On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 12:32 PM, Marc A. P

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-19 Thread Samuel Klein
[Forwarding from the the toolserver-l branch of this thread] -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Schwen Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation To: Wikimedia Toolserver What a nonsense issue. This superfluo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Markus Glaser is elected Chair of the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council

2013-03-18 Thread Samuel Klein
a-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >> _______ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-18 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Nathan wrote: >>To return to the endowment again as the main topic, I think there are >>some risks we need to consider in an endowment. In general I think >>having an endowment is a good idea for a charitable institution, Yes and yes. > I sugg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-16 Thread Samuel Klein
@Denny, Gerard: I agree we need a single place to discuss wikidata / wiktionary / omegawiki futures. Perhaps a page on "Wiktionary 2.0" that starts from the ideas on the OmegaWiki page (which is the most detailed and nuanced of the current summary pages) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OmegaWiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
ts:Retrospective_2009-2012 > > Hi. > > I haven't had a chance to read the report yet, but I just want to say > thank you for the transparency here. :-) > > MZMcBride > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l maili

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:45 PM, George Herbert wrote: >> [Hosting...] Then various operational and administrative costs. My finger in >> the >> air estimate would be a total of about $4m-$5m. >> >> It is important to know how much money is going on essentials and how much >> on nice-to-haves. (T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
week, and the WMF is considering what an endowment might look like. Strong community support would speed that consideration. SJ -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
ndation.org> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > _______ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Minutes from the February 1-2, 2013 Board Meeting

2013-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
13-14.pdf&page=10> > > Nemo > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-05 Thread Samuel Klein
uld begin to expand the page on Meta-Wiki. Cunningham's > Law will kick in, as necessary. > > MZMcBride > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Global Voices: "#Wikimodernism: Catalan Modernism, from the Classroom to the Web"

2013-03-05 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Luis Villa joins WMF as Deputy General Counsel

2013-02-20 Thread Samuel Klein
Hear, hear! Welcome Luis, this is excellent news. I can't think of a better person to take on the role. Plus now you can wikilawyer while you lawyer... On Feb 19, 2013 6:51 PM, "Luis Villa" wrote: > I subscribed while still interviewing, admittedly under a different > address. :) Thanks for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Your support is wanted: The WMF Board of Trustees is looking for a new Board member

2013-02-17 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Indeed there's nothing to be surprised of, m/Oppenheim has always been used. Actually, the last time we were looking for a new appointed Trustee we had a NomCom in place and worked with the recruiter Eunice Azzani - though at the time

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community-Driven Video Production

2013-02-15 Thread Samuel Klein
ach? > > > > On 16 February 2013 02:24, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Victor- a lovely idea. Perhaps there are some subcommunities of >> wikimedians on youtube and other video-sites who could help with not >> just topical suggestions but potential videography suggesti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community-Driven Video Production

2013-02-15 Thread Samuel Klein
vgri...@wikimedia.org > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > San Francisco, CA 94105 > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-29 Thread Samuel Klein
On Dec 29, 2012 2:22 PM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Samuel Klein wrote: > > It seems guaranteed to cause confusion. > > > > "Wiki Med" strikes me as the second most confusing possible name for an > > associated group. > > The most confusi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-29 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > On 12/29/12 6:05 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Florence Devouard > >wrote: >> >> At the same time, Wiki is not a trademarked term and the term >>> "Foundation" >>> is a pretty usual one as well (in par

Re: [Wikimedia-l] bond funds? (was Re: Annual Audit of the Wikimedia Foundation)

2012-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] fundraising status?

2012-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM, James Salsman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Zack Exley wrote: > > > "Maximizing" for us means raising our budget > > with as little negative impact on the projects as possible > > Where do you find that meaning or any suggestion of it in the > una

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fundraising status?

2012-12-24 Thread Samuel Klein
Wikimania attendees. Many of these issues dwarf the ignominious > events of the Foundation's past, so I hope you, the other trustees, > and the Foundation leadership will address all of them swiftly. > > Sincerely, > James Salsman > -- Samuel Klein @metasj

Re: [Wikimedia-l] deliberately lowered fundraising growth rate (was: Fundraising updates?)

2012-12-22 Thread Samuel Klein
James, I forgot that you are not able to edit Meta. I will migrate the relevant parts of the discussion here to the wiki, since a wiki is a useful place to break down ideas and refactor solutions; but please feel free to continue posting thoughts to the list. On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Jam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] deliberately lowered fundraising growth rate (was: Fundraising updates?)

2012-12-22 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:07 PM, James Salsman wrote: > donors who expect the Foundation to prepare for contingency James, While your statistical comments were well-informed and helpful, your comments in this thread are less so, and your frustrated approach - while presuming to represent others

Re: [Wikimedia-l] deliberately lowered fundraising growth rate (was: Fundraising updates?)

2012-12-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello James, On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, James Salsman wrote: > > Are you suggesting the Board has a duty to raise as > > much money as possible? > > No. When actual fundraising far exceeded expectations, it was scaled > back to meet expectations based on the nonquantative predictions of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Translation of documents [was: Request for consultation on proposed guidelines relating to potential conflicts of interest in requesting Wikimedia resources]

2012-12-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Christophe Henner, 21/12/2012 16:43: > > Well, feels weird to see french as 1st priority frankly. >> > > That's an old proposal meant to start a discussion, it gives some criteria. That was based on primary/secondary language users

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request for consultation on proposed guidelines relating to potential conflicts of interest in requesting Wikimedia resources

2012-12-21 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising updates?

2012-12-17 Thread Samuel Klein
hink is fairly independent of the banner effect, then we sometimes > run > > a multivariate test. Or if we have a design tweak (like color) that we're > > confident will always effect click rate in the same direction as > donations, > > then we can combine that with message testing. > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > James Salsman > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Zack Exley > > Chief Revenue Officer > > Wikimedia Foundation > > 415 506 9225 > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

2012-12-12 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

2012-12-04 Thread Samuel Klein
Nathan wrote: > It's been clear to me, and seemingly other people, that Zack and the > fundraising team take their task very seriously, and are extraordinarily > thoughtful in all of their plans and interactions - with folks on the > mailing list, with editors and other stakeholders, and with re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "putting profit before knowledge"

2012-12-03 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

2012-12-03 Thread Samuel Klein
Brandon Harris writes: > I, for one, think this is totally awesome news. It is indeed! Zack Exley wrote: > > This is one of our opportunities each year to rejoice in the work > > of the projects, get feedback, and hold a large-scale barnraising for > > the coming year's work. It's good to red

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

2012-12-03 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks for the detailed thoughts, Zack! Did we run banners on the sister projects as well? It would also be great to experiment with running targeted banner messages and presentations on the sister projects, particularly Commons and Wiktionary, to see what the visitor response is like. We've certa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

2012-12-02 Thread Samuel Klein
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[Wikimedia-l] An interesting governance model: Camfed

2012-11-20 Thread Samuel Klein
The overview starting on page 10 of how they develop national and regional partnerships, and how they share and delegate governance work, is worth reading: https://camfed.org/media/uploads/files/Camfed_Linklaters_Accounting_to_the_Girl.pdf SJ ___ Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Thank you from the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-11-15 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Pavel Richter wrote: > Yay! And a very nice mail that is :-) > Seconded! Congrats to everyone involved on a smooth start (-: Sam. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > we were only able to import languages from Wikivoyage where dumps were > prepared and pre-processed by the Wikivoyage-folks (who are, BTW, all > volunteers and have done amazing work on this). So all the languages > from wikivoyage-old.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-10 Thread Samuel Klein
e I've forgotten to name :-) > > All the best, > Erik > > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

2012-11-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > To avoid fear and anxiety, and to make sure the plan makes sense, I > > want to start an open conversation now. If you think any of the below > > is a terrible idea, or have suggestions on how to improve the plan, > > I’d love to hear from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers

2012-11-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Briefly: On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > Hi SJ, > > to boldly push my question again: do I understand from this correctly there > was at this instance (in your opinion) no urgency There is always some urgency to fix problems once a fix is identified - for instance, it was good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers

2012-11-06 Thread Samuel Klein
on of the why) but maybe next > time > > > the > > > > > changes are more drastic and infringing. I find it silly that we do > > > > require > > > > > chapters to let their bylaws approved by the Affiliations Committee > > > > > (although enforcement of that could be improved), and make them > > public > > > > > before doing so - but that the Wikimedia Foundation wouldn't have > to > > > > follow > > > > > the same standards. > > > > > > > > > > But let me make this constructive: I will set up a page on meta > (I'll > > > > send > > > > > a separate email about that) where the community can discuss > measures > > > to > > > > > make the Wikimedia Foundation more democratic. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lodewijk > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > > ___ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers

2012-11-02 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > My apologies. I read your previous suggestion during the travel guide > discussion and the only real route for communicating with a Board member to > solicit a proposal seemed to me to be private user-to-user e-mail. Are > there > other (a)venu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers

2012-11-02 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Phoebe writes: > > * a formal Board resolution that states the procedure for bylaws > > changes (mirroring the other procedural resolutions, such as voting > > transparency and deliberation rules). > +1. We have a procedure, it's just not a go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board resolutions on bylaw amendments and appointment of Foundation staff officers

2012-11-02 Thread Samuel Klein
iven the nature of > > most of the changes? > > > > Just asking! Feel free to disagree, > > Bishakha > > ___ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board vote on narrowing focus

2012-11-02 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Lodewijk, These are good questions. I expect effort will be required in the short term to delegate effectively and help move to a narrower focus. A few clarifying questions for you in return: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > > * PR support by WMF PR staff when writing p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Question for Board

2012-10-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On Oct 24, 2012 9:46 PM, "Keegan Peterzell" wrote: > > When you subsidize volunteers they a) are no longer volunteers and b) the > same problem with paid editors: losing the power to walk away. > > Give me money to administrate Wikipedia and I give up my bit. The freedom > to pick and choose what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming: WMF metrics/activities meeting - November 1

2012-10-18 Thread Samuel Klein
ation >> >> Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata office hours

2012-10-16 Thread Samuel Klein
mtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Samuel Klein
A great update. Thanks Erik! On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Strainu wrote: > > We're basing the initial set on the languages which are ready for > import from Wikivoyage. At this point, it looks like that would be > German, Italian, Engli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF core and non core expenses

2012-10-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:12 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> Hopefully this can be refactored on the wiki as comments on the annual plan. > > I feel it is too late to comment on the wiki about the annual plan. There are many reasons to comment on past plans. To get better at mutual peer review, we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF core and non core expenses

2012-10-09 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:07 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > Does the merchandise store, which will cost USD 311000, have an ROI > published somewhere? > > I think some 'Research' is needed in WMF core, however any funds under > 'Research' should be granted to, and administrated by, an academic > ins

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF core and non core expenses

2012-10-09 Thread Samuel Klein
A quick reply: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:38 AM, charles andrès wrote: > > If you consider the WMF financial reserves it's true, but for what I > understand, the FDC should decide about the distribution of the forthcoming > fundraising and so we can only guess that the movement has no fundings

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Knowledge across borders – Our new International Affairs Unit

2012-10-03 Thread Samuel Klein
This is wonderful. A few thoughts: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Nicole Ebber wrote: > I have published a blog post where I briefly introduce our plans and > motives, ask for your support and invite you to get involved. [1] > (Full-text below, but for the fancy version with links and a nice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Proposals

2012-10-03 Thread Samuel Klein
013 (although it seem like > not everyone finished filling out the forms): > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals > > > Itzik > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naming for the Travel Guide project (James Heilman)

2012-09-28 Thread Samuel Klein
ailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naming for the Travel Guide project

2012-09-27 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access "catastrophic" for Elsevier

2012-09-24 Thread Samuel Klein
It's funny, most organizations point to our community as am example of how to manage such things with volunteers. Another example: law reviews offer an excellent and widely reproduced model where the most esteemed publications are run by students. On Sep 24, 2012 6:33 PM, "George Herbert" wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012

2012-09-21 Thread Samuel Klein
(which may or may not still be online) as well as hosting some data > locally; not sure how we'd help preserve that curation value. > > -- phoebe > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OT / Fwd: [STS-L] FINAL TERMINATION OF THE NBII on September 30, 2012

2012-09-20 Thread Samuel Klein
That is certainly appropriate. We should consider how we could help. Could someone with government contacts find out what that would entail and what their primary maintenance expenses were? On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, "George Herbert" wrote: > Query - would making this on-topic for the Foundation be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing language wide

2012-09-19 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Risker wrote: > On 19 September 2012 13:17, Steven Walling > wrote: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_editing for a > > placeholder. > > Just for the record, there's a difference between paid editing and conflict > of interest editing.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Klein
ia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] the hidden toolbox

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > The result so far seems to be only that everyone wants to escape from the > toolbox, see e.g. wiki/Collection_Extension_2#**Wireframe_Layout_for_placing_** > the_print_and_Collection_**extension_buttons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:57 AM, charles andrès wrote: > Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world > impact survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be > made as public as possible (privacy issue), and that in the future , survey > including

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEducator] Scientists, Foundations, Libraries, Universities, and Advocates Unite and Issue New Recommendations to Make Research Freely Available to All Online

2012-09-14 Thread Samuel Klein
this group, send email to wikieduca...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should we lock StrategyWiki?

2012-08-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > > I would like to see this become an open part of Meta. It is traditional > > meta-work, and rewarding to improve and revisit regularly. > > I dis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Should we lock StrategyWiki?

2012-08-11 Thread Samuel Klein
ning process. I > would favor refactoring and merging, it should become a living space again, > not an archive. > > --Michael Snow > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread Samuel Klein
n Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, James Alexander wrote: > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Gerard wrote: > > > On 9 August 2012 19:03, Samuel Klein wrote: > > > > > When it comes to hiding the existence of other languages... our current > > > skin has d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-09 Thread Samuel Klein
l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-02 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Risker wrote: > > > > The line between what constitutes a community initiative and what's > > considered a request from an outside group still isn't clear to me > > Ah, interesting point. My read of this was that the guideline would > consider an initiative reque

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: WMF Policy and Political Affiliations Guideline

2012-08-01 Thread Samuel Klein
for placing so much power > in an unelected and unaccountable lawyer? > > MZMcBride > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-30 Thread Samuel Klein
ng. [If the wmfwiki were opened to collaborative updates, it would be fine to replace it with a cross-wiki redirect. But for now that's not possible.] -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2012-07-28 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:00 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Risker wrote: > > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > > does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI+ certification proposal

2012-07-28 Thread Samuel Klein
imedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is the WMF annual plan?

2012-07-25 Thread Samuel Klein
erations Analyst (Movement Communications) > Wikimedia Foundation > IRC (Freenode): HaeB > > ___ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy

2012-07-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Alice Wiegand wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > > > You would also have to accept that you are/will be part of the WMF board. > > You'd have access to less and in some case, more information, but not a > lot > > besides what people cho

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing the Fellowship News

2012-07-09 Thread Samuel Klein
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why is not free?

2012-07-08 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a perennial suggestion, and a good one. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > If wmf has trademarks secured, now is the time to release the copyrights > and high res. versions. > I agree. SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM, The Cunctator wrote: > Just think, in a few years we can set up the site to construct drafts for > the site that constructs drafts for Wikipedia. > Oh yes. It will be called Wikiwikiwiki, with "Jam On It" playing every time you load the main page. _

[Wikimedia-l] [OT] ACTA rejected by EU parliament

2012-07-04 Thread Samuel Klein
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18704192 SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!

2012-07-03 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both > namespaces. One can be seen as the complement of the other; mainspace would > become more encyclopedic and there would be a neat space where the more > recent cover

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board visitors resolution passed

2012-06-27 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > > +1. Compare and contrast with WMUK board meetings, where we regularly have > several (different) visitors attending each meeting, and also webcast our > board meetings wherever > possible. We have 'in-camera' elements as needed to protect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Input on new models

2012-06-27 Thread Samuel Klein
meeting be resolving the partnership process too, or is it mostly just > about AffCom? > > Dominic > > On 27 June 2012 14:15, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Hello Dominic, >> >> A draft of the AffCom charter and plan have been shared with the >> Board; I believe a final dr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Input on new models

2012-06-27 Thread Samuel Klein
e-existing chapter process), but what about > movement partners? > > Dominic > > On 21 June 2012 11:06, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> Forwarding on behalf of Bence. >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Bence Damokos >> Date

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Site

2012-06-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:53 PM, James Heilman wrote: >> >> The full proposal is here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Guidewhich >> we hope to present to the WMF board the day before Wikimania in Washington. >> The outcome of the bo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-23 Thread Samuel Klein
(Nemo) wrote: > Samuel Klein, 21/06/2012 16:07: > >> Brilliant.  The WM language committee and/or lenguasoriginarias might >> want to apply to join the Alliance for Linguistic Diversity. >> >> http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/about/#about_alliance > > > Are t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
languages diversity. > http://www.auf.org/ > > > -- > Adrienne Charmet-Alix > Directrice des programmes - Wikimedia France > Twitter : @AdrienneAlix > adrienne.a...@wikimedia.fr | 07.62.92.42.01 > http://www.wikimedia.fr > __

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Input on new models

2012-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding on behalf of Bence. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bence Damokos Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM Subject: [Movementroles] Input on new models Hi all, Currently, the Chapters/Affiliations Committee is considering the procedural elements needed for processing applicat

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