Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-26 Thread Yair Rand
@Nataliia: The change to what is now Article IV Section 3(F) is not merely making things more specific, it is a numerically different outcome. Had that change not been implemented, the current Board (with five community-/affiliate-selected and four Board-selected members) would not be allowed to ap

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-23 Thread Nataliia Tymkiv
Hello! The concerns expressed by Yair and SJ can be divided in two main categories: 1. The process to select and appoint Community- and Affiliate-selected trustees are not defined in the Bylaws. This is correct. This was a topic discussed and not resolved during our last community r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-22 Thread geni
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 17:15, María Sefidari wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The Board has discussed and approved some governance improvements in two > recent meetings, on December 9 and January 8. As the governing body for the > Wikimedia Foundation, we want to improve our capacity, performance, and >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-22 Thread Jackie Koerner
Hi SJ and Yair Rand, Thanks for your feedback. I have written down your feedback and will bring this up. You're right, we do want to have Bylaws that are as clear as possible, but language is a difficult thing. At some point, we may have to assume good faith. Best, -- *Jackie Koerner* *she/her

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Yair, thanks for looking it over carefully. On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 6:35 PM Yair Rand wrote: > Those "loopholes" people mentioned are still there, with the addition of > at least one new one. > Hm. Maria, an easier-to-read diff like the one Laurentius made for the proposal, would be most welco

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-21 Thread Yair Rand
It looks like the Board ignored the feedback, and also just decided not to tell anyone about that until a month and a half after the decision was finalized. The bylaws changes were implemented on December 9, according to the resolution text. Those "loopholes" people mentioned are still there (the

[Wikimedia-l] Bylaws amendments and upcoming call for feedback

2021-01-21 Thread María Sefidari
Hi everyone, The Board has discussed and approved some governance improvements in two recent meetings, on December 9 and January 8. As the governing body for the Wikimedia Foundation, we want to improve our capacity, performance, and representation of the movement’s diversity. We have amended the