Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-12 Thread Dan Duvall
I recently discovered an article on the subject from Norwegian sociocultural anthropologist Thomas Hylland Eriksen that might be of interest here.[1][2] (As a full disclosure about how I came upon it, it was mentioned in the Around the Web Digest of my favorite anthro blog, Savage Minds.[3] :) It

[Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Does anybody happen to know why Russia and Moldova are classified as Global North whereas Ukraine and Belarus are classified as Global South, from the WMF point of view? There is some discussion (specifically about Belarus) at the talk page, but it is too heated and I was not able to get the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Milos Rancic
I think the reason is more than obvious: Belarus is south of Moldova and Ukraine is in between, so it went south. As Russia is basically on the east of all of three countries, it's logical to put it among the northern countries. On Jun 11, 2015 9:59 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-06-11 22:03, Milos Rancic wrote: I think the reason is more than obvious: Belarus is south of Moldova and Ukraine is in between, so it went south. As Russia is basically on the east of all of three countries, it's logical to put it among the northern countries. Not that I object the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Milos Rancic
On Jun 11, 2015 10:06 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-06-11 22:03, Milos Rancic wrote: I think the reason is more than obvious: Belarus is south of Moldova and Ukraine is in between, so it went south. As Russia is basically on the east of all of three countries, it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michał Buczyński sand...@o2.pl wrote: It would be _bad_ if this tag was used as a support more / less flag and financial decisions on particular projects and people were heavily based upon this underexplained and arbitrary list. Well... Based on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: Does anybody happen to know why Russia and Moldova are classified as Global North whereas Ukraine and Belarus are classified as Global South, from the WMF point of view? For some reason this discussion made me think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Michał Buczyński
And they say we, Poles, have a dry sense of humour. Let me guess Milos, you are on purpouse mixing up two definitions of the White Sea (Бело море / Belo More) in Serbian. :P Coming back to the question of Yaroslav: this issue comes up regularily and I find it perfectly valid. Two years ago in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Global North/South

2015-06-11 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree with everything Michał said. It's a very flawed distinction, and it is often misleading. We at WMF have certainly been paying much closer attention to contexts at the level of countries and regions than to the binary divide. Conceivably, some time investment could result in a better and