[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
27, 2021 6:53 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise Still, consider that if the spoken feature is exposed to all users, it would raise awareness to more people when articles are not well formated for screen readers… And screen r

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Bence Damokos
Still, consider that if the spoken feature is exposed to all users, it would raise awareness to more people when articles are not well formated for screen readers… And screen readers are not available in all languages, so the effort put into the speech synthesizer in new languages could benefit a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 14:39, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Have a modern look > > That would be the mobile site. > > Well, yes. Now look at Wikisource in your mobile or to Wikipedia in your > desktip > Hopefully this will end soon for Wikisource to some extent. Th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 13:59, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >> > Not sure that duplicating the work of a range of screen readers is the >> > best use of our resources. >> >> I agree; such functionality belongs in the user client (screen reader, >> browser, whatever), not in the subject website. > > an exc

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:19 PM Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > Hear the articles > > > > Not sure that duplicating the work of a range of screen readers is the > > best use of our resources. > > I agree; such functionality belongs in the user client (screen reader, > browser, whatever), not in the su

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 09:57, geni wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 16:38, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga > wrote: > > Create visually interesting cartography > > I think open street map got there first. No; OSM supply data, in order that reusers such as WMF projects can create their own "visually

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
2021(e)ko urr. 27(a) 10:57 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (geni ):On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 16:38, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga wrote: > Upload MP4 files Try Handbrake.No, I want to use Commons. I don't need external software to upload texts or images. > Have a modern look That would be the mob

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-27 Thread geni
On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 16:38, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga wrote: > Upload MP4 files Try Handbrake. > Have a modern look That would be the mobile site. > Create visually interesting cartography I think open street map got there first. > Hear the articles Not sure that duplicating the work of a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:56 PM Todd Allen wrote: > That "strategy" crap is from WMF, not the communities, and matters not one > bit. > You will not refer to hundreds of other people's hard work as "crap" on this list, Todd. You have been placed on moderation. You are welcome to continue cont

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Todd Allen
; wrote: > > "Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's impossible or > even particularly hard. " > > I don't assume it, just we can't do it: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169027 or > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T23

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
__ From: Todd Allen Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:14 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise You put in a URL that links to one. And there, you're done. Having a "howto" gadget like that is not

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Todd Allen
ow a way to do this kind of interactive content in any given > wiki, we could go forward fast. > -- > *From:* Strainu > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:45 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List > *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
kind of interactive content in any given wiki, we could go forward fast. From: Strainu Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:45 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise Pe marți, 26 octomb

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Strainu
being useful. And we can't do it because... well, because we are... obsolete. > > > From: Anders Wennersten > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 6:02 PM > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
rsten Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 6:02 PM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise We have an army of volunteers to guarantee correctness and that issues of controversies are dealt with in a way that hopefully all par

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Francesc Fort
I find interesting what Anders and Galder said. I believe that Galder's complaint (which I agree with) is not incompatible with Anders observation. We can be both obsolete (technology) but yet relevant to society. F. Missatge de Liam Wyatt del dia dt., 26 d’oct. 2021 a les 17:44: > Yes the web

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Anders Wennersten
rom:* Anders Wennersten *Sent:* Tuesday, October 26, 2021 5:23 PM *To:* wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise "We will have more and more and more millions, but we will still... yes... obsolete." Galder What p

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Liam Wyatt
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
use as a gadget. Students are relying on YouTube to learn things. We are obsolete. Very obsolete. Galder From: Anders Wennersten Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 5:23 PM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Wikimedia Enterprise site surely is up: https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/pricing/ Did I miss an announcement here on this mailing list? At least there was a WMF blog post: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2021/10/25/wikimedia-foundation-launches-wikimedia-enterprise-the-new-opt-in-product

[Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia Enterprise

2021-10-26 Thread Anders Wennersten
"We will have more and more and more millions, but we will still... yes... obsolete." Galder What phenomenon do you see challenge Wikipedias role as a source for common knowledge, an encyklopedia for everyone? I see that for the last 20 years no successful commercial encyclopedia has been l