[Wikimediaau-l] another 2014 proposal for the West Australia Wheatbelt

2013-07-20 Thread Kerry Raymond
See here for the full proposal: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/User:SatuSuro/Wheatbelt_Project See here for the 2014 list of possible activities: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Proposal:2014_Annual_Plan

[Wikimediaau-l] 2014 Annual Plan: international events ...

2013-07-20 Thread Kerry Raymond
Tony1 has made some comments about the 2014 Annual Plan: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal_talk:2014_Annual_Plan and I hope we will be hearing more from others! In regard to his comment about WMAU being represented at international events, it's probably worth a broader discussio

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] 2014 Annual Plan: international events ...

2013-07-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
Agreed. Also, at least one of the International events: Wikimania, offers support for travel already. But targeting funds for the purposes you outline seems a good idea. Speaking of Wikimania... and linking to the WAJER idea, but ignoring the "chinwagging" perspective, how about ab annual event

[Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Kerry Raymond
In http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Proposal_talk:2014_Annual_Plan#Proposal Tony1 also suggests instructional videos to reinforce edit training and/or to replace it. He asks is "is it too ambitious"? Because of th

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
Is this suggestion because we are dissatisfied with the dozens if not hundreds and thousands of instructional videos already available? Maybe the suggestion is for Australian accent and language versions? A series in an Indigenous language would be remarkable! Or perhaps the suggestion is to create

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Richard Ames
More videos are not needed. More hands on mentoring probably is. On 21/07/13 08:43, Kerry Raymond wrote: In Also we struggle to find volunteers among WMAU members and the Australian WP community for our edit training workshops as our library partners like to run these events on weekda

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: 2014 Annual Plan: international events ...

2013-07-20 Thread Craig Franklin
I do like the "Wikiminia" title! But on conferences and meetups generally, I think we need to look realistically at the value for money when we set up these events. The bare fact of the matter is that setting up an event in Australia is expensive. Accommodation, venues, and most importantly trav

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: 2014 Annual Plan: international events ...

2013-07-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
Yes, agreed. Though I think there are ways such an event can take place cheaply, and even ways for it to make money (Rego fees but free for members). For example, we're pulling together a little one day conference for a couple of hundred dollars and a heap of in kind: http://tinyurl.com/aaaopencon

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: 2014 Annual Plan: international events ...

2013-07-20 Thread Gnangarra
One of our(WMAU) issues is that we work in isolation for most editors that isolation isnt a big issue but our best results come form when we break that isolation and bring people together. WMAU biggest achievement came when we were able to bring a group together in Canberra in 2009, we changed the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Tony Souter
"we’d probably need to spend some money on professional tools for making instructional videos (screen-capture and video-editing software) and perhaps some training on how to use them effectively" I was assuming WMAU would hire a contractor for the tech side. There are skilled individuals who ha

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
Another idea for the list. .. sorry if this is already in there. Australian Response to WMF campaigns. Riding on the shoulder of relative giants, when WMF run something like Wikimedia Loves Monuments, WmAu somehow knows in advance and runs WmAu Loves Monuments. Same for the video series Impact of

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Kerry Raymond
Leigh, feel free to point me at these instructional videos (there's stuff I would love to learn personally as well as making those links more available to others). I did go looking once and found some on a Wikipedia site (probably on outreach, can't remember) but they seemed to be all broken links.

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Tony Souter
Someone mentioned the social aspect of face-to-face edit training vs professionally produced training videos. Face-to-face can be an important aspect, but will always be limited in scope and relatively expensive (as Craig has pointed out, especially for a country like Australia). There are two

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Gnangarra
The production people I work with at ABC Open maybe persuaded to do the videos for us, they already have the reach we'd need... On 21 July 2013 13:18, Tony Souter wrote: > Someone mentioned the social aspect of face-to-face edit training vs > professionally produced training videos. Face-to-face

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Leigh Blackall
There are a few on the Wikiversity page I maintain for workshops: http://en.m.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikipedia_editing_workshops If need be I'll forward a YouTube playlist On 21/07/2013 3:03 PM, "Kerry Raymond" wrote: > ** ** > > Leigh, feel free to point me at these instructional videos (there’s

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] RE: Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG

2013-07-20 Thread Gnangarra
hmm many of those will need to be redone/duplicated with the changes to visual editor On 21 July 2013 14:14, Kerry Kilner wrote: > Thanks for this reference, Leigh! > > Kerry Kilner > > > On 21/07/2013, at 3:59 PM, Leigh Blackall wrote: > > There are a few on the Wikiversity page I maintain