Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-12-03 Thread Michelle Gallaway
I'm not exactly sure how a lot of these things work, but would it be possible to allow open editing in only the talk namespaces, but not anywhere else? That way the members could have their private space, and the peanut gallery is kept from interfering but can still participate to a limited

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-12-03 Thread private musings
Hi Michelle, We could certainly try that as a matter of policy - as in, simply communicating that rule clearly to all comers - I'd happily be prepared to do some of the legwork in explaining how that works to would be editors. Probably it would work better in tandem with continuing the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-12-03 Thread Michelle Gallaway
I was more interested in seeing if this could be enforced by technology, maybe so that unconfirmed users simply didn't get an edit button on other name spaces. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:08 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Michelle, We could certainly try that as a matter of

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-12-03 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Michelle Gallaway mgalla...@gmail.com wrote: I was more interested in seeing if this could be enforced by technology, maybe so that unconfirmed users simply didn't get an edit button on other name spaces. This would be my preference as well, at least for the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-12-02 Thread private musings
Hi all, I was just wondering if anything happened on this front? - It'd be great to somehow open some aspects of WMAU up - ideally as soon as possible! - are the committee discussing things further? (if so, please just consider doing something - or at least discussing openly :-) - pretty much any

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-19 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: The committee has talked a lot about allowing non-members to edit the wiki, and I would love a good proposal, but the one that privatemusings put up was an empty proposal. Non members can explain here why they want to

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread John Vandenberg
Sorry folks. That page has been deleted. Wikimedia Australia has been working on a process for proposals, and this proposal did not follow the process. The committee has talked a lot about allowing non-members to edit the wiki, and I would love a good proposal, but the one that privatemusings

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread private musings
oops, my apologies for not having followed the process I'll do my best to read up on how to follow it properly, and then give it another go. The page basically just suggested that WMAU should allow registration, and therefore editing, by anyone so minded - part of my rationale is that we

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread private musings
ps. I think one of the key aspects to the proposals process that I bungled on is that an idea should have the support of at least 2 members before being formally raised on the wiki could I ask if any member out there is minded to support the notion? Hope so! cheers, Peter, PM. On Tue, Nov

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread Angela
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: I've written a proposal on the official wiki to allow registration, and hence editing, by non-members. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: that is not the process PM, and the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: Would a separate wiki be a better idea? That way the committee wouldn't need to worry about the unofficial content being confused for anything they'd approved. And the community wouldn't need to worry about their pages being

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Halasz
Non members can explain here why they want to be able to edit our wiki; we are listening. I'm not engaging in this debate again. It's been argued to death already. It's ridiculously obvious to me why it WMAU should be editable, and the fact that it still isn't tells me that WMAU is either

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com wrote: Non members can explain here why they want to be able to edit our wiki; we are listening. I'm not engaging in this debate again. It's been argued to death already. It's ridiculously obvious to me why it WMAU should be

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Jenkins
Hi, The part I'm not sure of is what parts of the Wiki people would wish to change. There are sections which clearly can't be publicly editable, such as the rules and minutes, but I'm assuming that there are other sections - perhaps events? - which would be of interest to non-members for

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Halasz
A more basic question is why are non-members still non-members? I have not renewed my membership partly over this issue. (As I said previously: it shows WMAU is either moving at a glacial pace or is being run by people who simply do not share my values.) My biggest concern is that open editing

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?

2010-11-16 Thread Nathan Carter
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Another option is for non-members to be restricted to talk pages on the main wiki.  This means they cant edit pages, but they can initiate and participate in discussions about them.  Talk pages shouldn't contain anything