Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
+1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: > > Ignore any or all of the above advice if you are being physically harmed. > Focus on personal safety first. > > > -- Vickram Fool On The Hill ___ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 23:25, Bishakha Datta wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with you completely. While I've never been dragged to a Police >> station, the Coimbatore Police made me delete ALL my photos on the cam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Deepon Saha
Good Points by Bishakha.. We need to be prepared and organised if anything happens again.. Deepon On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with you completely. While I've n

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Shalabh
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with you completely. While I've never been dragged to a Police >> station, the Coimbatore Police made me delete ALL my photos on the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Introduction to Wikipedia" session during "Kurukshetra2012", 4Feb2012 at CEG, Chennai

2012-02-08 Thread Bishakha Datta
I am just amazed by the number of wiki workshops and academies taking place all over India since January. Nice going, everyone! Best Bishakha On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi wrote: > *Details of this event could be accessed at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with you completely. While I've never been dragged to a Police > station, the Coimbatore Police made me delete ALL my photos on the camera, > and the Bangalore Police took away my memory card. > Thi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-08 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
Praveenp +1 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 16:10, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excellent Suggestion Praveen, +1. > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM, praveenp wrote: > >> If this get implemented with enough background check with rigid >> criteria like credible 300 upload

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread praveenp
I feel no sympathy for Nichalp or any such users. Per this discussion, he chose his path which is clearly against the aims of wikipedia. Somebody stated here that Nichalp himself appeared in this thread, so i assume, he has no intention to stop what he is doing. Why we should sympathize to hin? Bt

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Noopur
Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote: > Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg > /.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Konarak Ratnakar
Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Konarak Ratnakar
Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wik

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > And what about participation of the Indian English Community? > > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi wrote: > Here are the answers I have to all of you. > @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the > community which I will be posting in the respective W

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are wo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
The issue is not of quality, but of the format itself. OGV is an open format, and hence all videos on the Commons are also in the OGV format. Correspondingly, all audio is used in OGG. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote: > Srikanth, > The Theora (.ogv) format you are talking

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Konarak Ratnakar
Srikanth,The Theora (.ogv) format you are talking about, I don't think has a good quality, instead we should use Matroska (.mkv). Konarak Ratnakar. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:35:40 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimed

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
He's free to monitor them. What is important is how the community develops a consensus about the said matter. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Konarak Ratnakar wrote: > What if he's monitoring all India related lists and the related > discussions? > > -- > Date: Wed,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Konarak Ratnakar
What if he's monitoring all India related lists and the related discussions? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:33 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione IT is sad, but true about what happened to Ni

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
IT is sad, but true about what happened to Nicholas. While the edits by WifiOne are clearly CoI based, for now I choose to disconnect the user from Nichalp in my POV. Nicholas was the ideal Role model for us back in 2007-8-9. He churned out articles of good quality like no one. It was indeed sad th

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Excellent Suggestion Praveen, +1. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM, praveenp wrote: > If this get implemented with enough background check with rigid > criteria like credible 300 uploads/3000 edits +1 yr active > participation in any indian lang wiki project so as active users can > get full adva

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors "We Edit Wikipedia"

2012-02-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? O

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread wheredevelsdare
Wifione commented on this discussion. He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this edit on WP:No Original Research - he changed "trial" to "trial/litigation in any country" and "published by any involved party" to "published/authored by any involved party" and also changed

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Unbelievable but Shocking ! > > I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ... So far the evidence is not good. > but a look at the edit history > of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests > of IIPM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
What is rather odd is that the 'story' is written as a defense of Nichalp/Wifione/Wikifone. Possibly some people may have known him personally and therefore the tone of the article. I find the statement "They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Unbelievable but Shocking ! I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders. He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.