Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Hey, sorry for this mail, but ionteresting thing: Only http versions get blocked by SonicWall and BlueCoat. https is not blocked and my friend says it cannot be blocked. -- On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pradeep, Arun, I tried. > Di

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Pradeep, Arun, I tried. Didn't work with my lab. Lab admin refusing. As for cyber cafes, I've managed to unblock it. : ) On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Also, this also gives a Wikimedian a needed excuse to talk about > Wikipedia - a leg i

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Also, this also gives a Wikimedian a needed excuse to talk about Wikipedia - a leg in the door, if you will. The Head of IT's interest did get piqued by being told about Commons but I'm not sure if she explored it much more. It was a situation that I could have positively exploited but I was just h

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi, > > Commons was blocked in my college too. All it took for me to get it > unblocked was a 25 min conversation with Head of IT dept. She did the > needful to unblock Commons. Suggest talking to the college'

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On 26 December 2011 12:01, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Chapter as voice of community. Just curious, What are those many things that > you feel chapter can do with content? Wiki Loves Monuments, Photowalks, hosting local mirrors for content that is out of copyright in India but not elsewhere etc

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 07:26, Gautam John wrote: > On 26 December 2011 00:43, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > > > and I don't think chapters should have a say on things like these, > > especially when they put a big disclaimer "We are not responsible for > > content", they loose the right to talk

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

hi, Commons was blocked in my college too. All it took for me to get it unblocked was a 25 min conversation with Head of IT dept. She did the needful to unblock Commons. Suggest talking to the college's/cyber cafe's network administrator first to unblocking websites. Censorship of content on Comm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On 26 December 2011 00:43, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > and I don't think chapters should have a say on things like these, > especially when they put a big disclaimer "We are not responsible for > content", they loose the right to talk as chapter. Say what? There two separate things here. 1. Ch

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 00:32, Noopur wrote: > I was simply wondering if there were members of Indian chapter involved or > anything specific to India implemented in the same direction. > I dont think anything with ImageFilter is geolocation specific. So nothing can be done "specific to India".

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Nudity is art for some, porn for others. Its perspective which matters. And correction, I'm from a middle-east country, and wikipedia is the last place anyone goes for porn over here, so thats cleared. India is a very free country on the account of web filtering, let alone colleges and other edu in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Great, looks like I started a war of words again. I'll lie low. New mail regarding this will happen tomorrow, but that's it. I think I should stop sending mails if I'm going to start a war everytime. You can't delete images, or filter certain ones. I've already written to Blue Coat. Good night. --

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Just a note to you guys: I am not discouraging your discussion actually, but if you want to do something in Commons, you have to discuss that in Commons. You can discuss about Commons' things here for years but it will not take effect. We discussed things about this in Commons-l mailing list (dedic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Simply put, the discussion on Image filters that happened post the German Wikipedia front page picture (correct me if wrong) and several responses including: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Personal_image_filter http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/tag/image-filter/ I was simply wondering if there were mem

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 00:22, Noopur wrote: > Which reminds me, sorry to butt in, but what is India's position on image > filters? > What do you mean "India's position"? Are you asking for the A) Position of people who are for/against censorship on Internet including Wikipedia? B) Position of p

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

We are going to have to live with this one, I think. There are very strong views on Censorship abroad. For each culture finding the correct mix is different. What is right for India may not be right for West. So imho we need to care for giving more options in content rather than restrict with a str

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Which reminds me, sorry to butt in, but what is India's position on image filters? On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > Its your call "Commons Admins". > There is some (hidden and very thin ) dividing line between porn and naked. > > I am told that in some Middleeast cou

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

The sense of porn differs culture to cultures. We cannot rely on that. And I think we have talked enough in this matter. As far as I know Commons is blocked in Iran, and it's their call. Commons is here to host educational and informational images and to server other Wikimedia projects by hosting f

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

And again: We can 't act against the community. If you "Community" doesn't speak up, we can't do anything. And btw, even the "porn" article deserve a picture, no? _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Its your call "Commons Admins". There is some (hidden and very thin ) dividing line between porn and naked. I am told that in some Middleeast countries, where there are restrictions on webcontent, Wikipedia is also used by youngsters for porn/naked (whatever you feel correct) pictures/content. I

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

And what you want us (Commons Admins) to do Sudhanwa? Delete all picture with a naked person in it? That didn't go well the last time someone tryed ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Sexual_content/Archive_3 ). and btw, why just nude people? Muhammed are forbidden by Muslins laws an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Is it possible to talk to "Blue Coat" and remove commons from their blacklist. btw, there are pictures on commons that can easily go in the porn category. Some serious admin work is needed there. -Sudhanwa On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

So I spent the afternoon doing some research on this matter [on my phone], and learnt that it isn't the network admin who has blocked the site. The so called security software, Blue Coat, in this case, tags the Commons as Media download site. So blocking sites in this category, blocks Commons, Flic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Tanvir, thanks for the tip: Handy for now. Yuvi, we will have to find an alternate workaround. Anirudh, this be it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Coat_Systems On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > Nice trick, but do note that the secure.* service will be going away > at some

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Nice trick, but do note that the secure.* service will be going away at some point in the future. There is native https for every project now. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Tanvir Rahman wrote: > Just a trick that might be useful, use Wikimedia's secure server. > Like https://secure.wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Just a trick that might be useful, use Wikimedia's secure server. Like https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Main_Page Regards, Tanvir Rahman Wikitanvir on Wikimedia ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

What is the name of the filter software that was being used at the establishments? anirudh On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote: > Heya all, > Just wanted to pass this on: > Most colleges, I've seen 3, and 9/10 cyber cafes I've visited over the >

[Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.

Heya all, Just wanted to pass this on: Most colleges, I've seen 3, and 9/10 cyber cafes I've visited over the last one month have blocked the Wikimedia Commons citing commons.wikimedia.org/is blocked because it is currently categorized as:Reference Open Image / Media Search. Now, how do we convinc