Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-20 Thread Ravishankar
HI Vikram Vincent. On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.comwrote: Such apprehensions exist in all communities where there are volunteers and employees whether the Linux kernel, GCC, LibC, Wikipedia, etc.. Wikipedia is unique in many aspects and should not be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-19 Thread ansuman
Thanks Anasuya. I believe you, and I understand your points. But the facts (some are getting out at proposal talk page) were not told before, which should have been told much earlier. Even the WMF's intent is not transparent about this particular project. You can see many questions being asked

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-19 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hi! On 19 April 2014 16:36, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: snip And it looks like no matter what volunteers ask, say; irrespective of their concerns, the decisions are final or have been made. To put it in another way, the paid employees outweigh volunteers. That's all. Thanks. Such

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-19 Thread ansuman
Yes, you're right. But I was talking specifically about this project in making decisions. This percept by Pradeep at proposal talk page sums it up; //I see no point in community engagement with this proposal to improve it without the knowledge of WMF's assessment. Trying to make improvements

[Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-18 Thread ansuman
Here it's writtenhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC#Ombudsperson_feedback about Anasuya's involvement. If there is a COI issue, why is she involved now? Why did she visited India officially to meet CISA2K? To Anusuaya,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

2014-04-18 Thread Anasuya Sengupta
Hi Ansuman, I think I've made clear on the CIS talk page what the process for the CIS transition was, as best as I am able. Since neither Asaf or I were directly involved at the start, it is difficult for us to give the community details we do not know. The so-called Conflict of Interest issue