Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Thanks for your email Andy. Basically, the whole point is we keep it simple until all of the messages are agreed. Keep an eye out for a fuller announcement, probably later on in the week. I know there's a lot of people interested in what's happening but it's important we get things correct and if

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership grace period

On 11/02/13 21:37, Thomas Dalton wrote: Can you elaborate? What does interval arithmetic have to do with anything? Donations are due at a certain date. Then there is a grace period: that is the interval. And affects a lot of things, such as cash flow... Gordo __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Thank you. While not meaning to be critical (we all seem to be walking on eggshells ATM), I'm surprised that that has less detail that Chris' recent announcement, in that it doesn't say anything of: "The intellectual property in QRpedia and the qrpedia.org and qrwp.org domains will be transfe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

You got the job of greeter? Damn, I was going to apply for that. -- Rexx On 11 February 2013 20:46, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 11/02/13 16:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Unremarkably, I have first-hand knowledge of some things, and not of >> others. >> > Welcome to the human race. > > Gordo > > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On 9 Feb 2013, at 18:52, David Gerard wrote: > On 9 February 2013 18:39, Tom Morris wrote: > >> Now this has been transferred to Wikimedia UK, would it be possible to >> remove the access logging on QRpedia to ensure it complies with both the >> letter and spirit of the WMF privacy policy. >>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Hello everyone, Just following this up. I've updated the relevant parts of the Q&A to reflect the agreement that Wikimedia UK has made with Roger Bamkin and Terence Eden, while retaining the integrity of the original. Jay Walsh will be doing the same on the WMF side. If anyone has any questions p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership grace period

Can you elaborate? What does interval arithmetic have to do with anything? On Feb 11, 2013 8:49 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Interval_arithmetic > > YMMV, > > Gordo > > > __**___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] First meeting of the Technology Committee - Postponement

Fine by me :) I wouldn't have been able to attend as it is (found out today). Tom On 11 February 2013 20:30, Katherine Bavage < katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Dear All > > Very sorry, but I've been reminded this afternoon that I had a > pre-existing arrangement of some weeks for to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

There are restricted donations, certainly, and I suppose those restrictions could be considered terms. A restricted donation is not a contractual arrangement though (a contract requires consideration - if there is consideration then it isn't a donation), so I would not use the word "terms", which i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

*We've been very lucky in finding two developers who know how to keep their eye on the community pulse and are willing to "go the extra mile" for us when we need them.* I'll second that! As its likely we're changing the date of its meeting, anyone interesting in knowing more/getting involved in d

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership grace period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_arithmetic YMMV, Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11/02/13 16:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: Unremarkably, I have first-hand knowledge of some things, and not of others. Welcome to the human race. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Agree with Mike on that - and I hope everyone will be pleased to learn that we've already been talking to our developers about how best to implement a system to ensure a seamless changeover. We've been very lucky in finding two developers who know how to keep their eye on the community pulse and ar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On 11 Feb 2013, at 20:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Feb 11, 2013 7:59 PM, "geni" wrote: > > > > For example the next issue is how WMUK plans to pay for the upkeep of > > QRpedia given that it wasn't in the budget. > > There shouldn't be an issue there. The costs are minimal. Renewal costs for

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] First meeting of the Technology Committee - Postponement

Dear All Very sorry, but I've been reminded this afternoon that I had a pre-existing arrangement of some weeks for tomorrow evening that, while in my own diary, wasn't in my work calendar and so I failed to factor in when picking the time. I can't cancel it :( Obviously if people still wish to me

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

On 11 February 2013 18:25, Charles Matthews wrote: > WP:WP DNB, the WikiProject devoted to quarrying out the > good stuff from the DNB, Excellent job. Is there a template for linking from Wikipedia articles to the corresponding DNB entry on Wikisource? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Tom, Why do you talk nonsense half the time (or more)? Of course many donations have terms, implied or explicit. Hence the restricted funds many charities have. Any donation involving transferring domain names should have a written agreement, as this one will have, and that agreement has term

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

Has anyone tried using unpaper [1] on a sample of images? I could do -- all you really need is a Unix-based OS and some command-line savvy - but I'm a little tied up just at the moment. Harry -- Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250) [1] http://unpaper.berlios.de/ __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On Feb 11, 2013 7:59 PM, "geni" wrote: > > For example the next issue is how WMUK plans to pay for the upkeep of > QRpedia given that it wasn't in the budget. There shouldn't be an issue there. The costs are minimal. Renewal costs for two domain names and maybe a few hours work by the existing IT

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On 11 February 2013 16:37, John Byrne wrote: > What we had is best described as "a delay in agreeing terms for the > donation" or similar. > A good line. And if the full unredacted text of the negotiations was published people would have more data to weigh its validity. Yes I know that isn't goin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On 11 February 2013 17:00, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Feb 11, 2013 4:37 PM, "John Byrne" wrote: >> What we had is best described as "a delay in agreeing terms for the >> donation" or similar. > That's what I'm still not getting. Donations don't have terms... That statement is trivially false,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 17:29, Charles Matthews wrote: >Let's get > over it - all of it. Will you take my point now, that the important > matter is that the membership sees that the Board will implement the > review? Surely you can do better than the "but X is worse!" fallacy. - d. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On Feb 11, 2013 5:07 PM, "Charles Matthews" wrote: > > On 11 February 2013 17:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I'm not sure why you've attached your top-posted comment to my post; > > but to be clear; my purpose is not to apportion blame, nor to make > > criticisms I'm interested in correcting a fals

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

+1 On Feb 11, 2013 5:23 PM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > Count me in, for a start! > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

That's really exciting - it's relatively easy to work out that a given topic area (in this case notable Victorians) has gaps, but it's wonderful to have something like this that tells us exactly what those gaps are and helps us fill them. In fact, it's the sort of thing you could build an edit-

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

On 11 February 2013 18:03, rexx wrote: > Congratulations indeed. > > Putting 29,000+ biographies onto Wikisource is a monumental achievement; > Charles and all those who contributed deserve to be told by us how much > their efforts are appreciated. > > What's next, Charles? Well, I only got into

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

Harry Its not a coincidence that Chris's announcement mentions defining the relationship with Mpedia and Gpedia. I agree with you. We have dozens of activists and editors who should be lauded for their work. They have 750 new articles from Cadiz to Marrakesh (literally). The recent videos that have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

I'll be happy to come along and work provided I'm free on that day. Theresa On Feb 11, 2013 5:20 PM, "Andrew Gray" wrote: > Hi all, > > As some of you may know, I've been working on a project part-funded by > WMUK to digitise and release a collection of historic Canadian > photographs. After som

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

I'd be interested too, if it's on a weekend. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Andrew Gray wrote: > Hi all, > > As some of you may know, I've been working on a project part-funded by > WMUK to digitise and release a collection of historic Canadian > photographs. After some work, we are now at a s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

Congratulations indeed. Putting 29,000+ biographies onto Wikisource is a monumental achievement; Charles and all those who contributed deserve to be told by us how much their efforts are appreciated. What's next, Charles? -- Doug On 11 February 2013 17:23, Richard Farmbrough wrote: > Congratu

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

I don't want to set the cat among the pigeons, but does this mean that WMUK can now support GibraltarpediA? I perfectly understand that things are a bit more complicated when it comes to money and formal agreements, but after the wonderful success in Monmouth, it would be a shame if the excelle

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

On 11/02/13 17:34, Stevie Benton wrote: If I'm available, I'll bring along my Photoshoppery skills! I will bring GIMP skills... Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

If I'm available, I'll bring along my Photoshoppery skills! Stevie On 11 February 2013 17:23, Richard Symonds wrote: > Count me in, for a start! > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 17:20, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Yes, but he didn't say the description in the media is accurate, so he > hasn't contradicted the main point Andy is making. But I didn't say that he had. Look, please out the axe away: further random hair-splitting is unlikely to add to the free c

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

Count me in, for a start! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

Congratulations all round, especially to Charles. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

Yes, but he didn't say the description in the media is accurate, so he hasn't contradicted the main point Andy is making. On Feb 11, 2013 5:17 PM, "Charles Matthews" wrote: > On 11 February 2013 17:11, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > The wmuk Secretary said nothing of the sort... > > Mike said that nei

[Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

Hi all, As some of you may know, I've been working on a project part-funded by WMUK to digitise and release a collection of historic Canadian photographs. After some work, we are now at a state where the metadata is at a high level of quality, and the glorious high-resolution TIFFs are piling up -

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 17:11, Thomas Dalton wrote: > The wmuk Secretary said nothing of the sort... Mike said that neither of Andy's statements would be at all accurate. He doesn't see things the same way. Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

The wmuk Secretary said nothing of the sort... On Feb 11, 2013 5:07 PM, "Charles Matthews" wrote: > On 11 February 2013 17:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I'm not sure why you've attached your top-posted comment to my post; > > but to be clear; my purpose is not to apportion blame, nor to make > > c

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 17:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I'm not sure why you've attached your top-posted comment to my post; > but to be clear; my purpose is not to apportion blame, nor to make > criticisms I'm interested in correcting a false impression that has > been given in the media of a dispute w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

I'm not sure why you've attached your top-posted comment to my post; but to be clear; my purpose is not to apportion blame, nor to make criticisms I'm interested in correcting a false impression that has been given in the media of a dispute which did not occur. I'm delighted - and relieved - that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

On Feb 11, 2013 4:37 PM, "John Byrne" wrote: > > What we had is best described as "a delay in agreeing terms for the donation" or similar. That's what I'm still not getting. Donations don't have terms... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 15:23, Charles Matthews wrote: > On 11 February 2013 15:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> On 11 February 2013 14:18, Michael Peel >> wrote: >>> >>> On 11 Feb 2013, at 14:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

On 11 February 2013 16:40, Stevie Benton wrote: >The project > is the result of the efforts of over 30 volunteers since 2008 and has led to > over 30,000 articles being added to Wikisource. Thanks Stevie. On the remote possibility that there may be a pedant out there, the exact number today is 2

[Wikimediauk-l] Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography digitised on Wikisource

Hello everyone, I write to let you know about a really interesting project on Wikisource. A group of volunteers, including Charles Matthews, has just finished digitising the Victorian-era Dictionary of National Biography. T

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

What we had is best described as "a delay in agreeing terms for the donation" or similar. John On 11/02/2013 14:03, wikimediauk-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:21:39 + From: Stevie Benton To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia M

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 15:49, Jon Davies wrote: > I think you are mistaking me for someone with the power of a Stalin. This is > a community movement with staff , trustees and volunteers all of which have > played roles in this and it is only the staff over whom I have authority. I'm not blaming you

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

I think you are mistaking me for someone with the power of a Stalin. This is a community movement with staff , trustees and volunteers all of which have played roles in this and it is only the staff over whom I have authority. I also think your email style is horrible and to quote yourself 'totall

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

re the chief executive, it's your job to review what has happened, > work > out why it went wrong and work out how to do things better in future. "It > just did" is totally unacceptable. > -- next part --

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On Feb 11, 2013 3:25 PM, "Jon Davies" wrote: > > It is so easy to think this was simple and why did it take so long. It just did. From October 1st 2011, through two legal drafts, the involvement of staff and trustees over two continents, countless meetings, phone calls and emails, it all took time

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

It is so easy to think this was simple and why did it take so long. It just did. From October 1st 2011, through two legal drafts, the involvement of staff and trustees over two continents, countless meetings, phone calls and emails, it all took time. Let's be happy we got there and toast the succe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 15:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 11 February 2013 14:18, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> On 11 Feb 2013, at 14:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >>> It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of >>> the intellectual property of QRpedia..." is more accurate; or perh

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 14:18, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 11 Feb 2013, at 14:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of >> the intellectual property of QRpedia..." is more accurate; or perhaps >> "..included a dispute among trustees over whethe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 Feb 2013, at 14:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: > It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of > the intellectual property of QRpedia..." is more accurate; or perhaps > "..included a dispute among trustees over whether to accept the > donation of the intellectual property

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 14:01, Andy Mabbett wrote: > It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of > the intellectual property of QRpedia..." is more accurate; or perhaps > "..included a dispute among trustees over whether to accept the > donation of the intellectual property

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

It seems to me that "...included a delay in accepting the donation of the intellectual property of QRpedia..." is more accurate; or perhaps "..included a dispute among trustees over whether to accept the donation of the intellectual property of QRpedia..." (note corrected capitalisation of "QRped

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

This is something I'm liaising on with the WMF. The original copy was put together jointly between WMF and WMUK and I'm keen that any revisions are accepted by both sides. I'm hopeful that we can get this fixed today. Thanks, Stevie On 9 February 2013 20:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 9 February

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

Do you have a term of wording you'd prefer, Andy? Stevie On 11 February 2013 12:41, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 11 February 2013 11:30, Stevie Benton > wrote: > > Dispute over QRpedia - the description isn't ideal, of course. However, > to > > outsiders it's probably reasonable to think there is

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 11 February 2013 11:30, Stevie Benton wrote: > Dispute over QRpedia - the description isn't ideal, of course. However, to > outsiders it's probably reasonable to think there is a dispute given the > length of time it took to reach an agreement. It's not reasonable that the impression given is

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

Hello everyone, Just a couple of things here to tidy up from my side. Apologies for my lack of communication over the weekend but as it was my anniversary and working may have led to it being my last, I hope you'll forgive me. - Use of logos - the use of logos is covered by fair use. Publicat

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

There seems to be some confusion about QRpedia and QR codes. QRpedia is a site that makes QR codes - it is not the clever bit. The key part is qrwp.org that does the language switching. This can be used as a stand alone service, with QR codes or with NFC or other emerging technologies. A QRWP url c