Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-30 Thread Gordon Joly
On 27/07/2011 10:57, Thomas Morton wrote: Just one question; why 2014? 2013 isn't bid until the end of this year, if I am reading it correctly, so we still have a decent amount of time to put together a bid for that...? No rush of course, just wondering on the reason :) Tom That is six

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-30 Thread Alex Stinson
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 27/07/2011 10:57, Thomas Morton wrote: Just one question; why 2014? 2013 isn't bid until the end of this year, if I am reading it correctly, so we still have a decent amount of time to put together a bid for

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Gordon Joly
Looks like work has started... for example in Sydney. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Bids/Sydney And here is the checklist http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/checklist Gordo On 26/07/2011 16:47, WereSpielChequers wrote: I rather fear that hosting Wikimania is a bit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
My two cents would be that the big events should not be allowed to drive out the more grassrootsy things. ^^ This. On the other hand - hosting Wikimania might a) raise the profile of Wikimania UK in non-Wikimedia circles (i.e. lead to more grass roots opportunity) and b) be an

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re: Just one question; why 2014? 2013 isn't bid until the end of this year, if I am reading it correctly, so we still have a decent amount of time to put together a bid for that...? No rush of course, just wondering on the reason :) There are a several reasons why I would prefer that we did

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 July 2011 10:57, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Just one question; why 2014? 2013 isn't bid until the end of this year, if I am reading it correctly, so we still have a decent amount of time to put together a bid for that...? No rush of course, just wondering on the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
It will take at least a year to put together a good bid, especially if we want to line up sponsors in advance of the bidding. (If we put a large budget in the bid with no evidence that we'll be able to fund it, we don't stand a chance. If we try to do a low-budget conference in the UK, we'll

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Peel
On 27 Jul 2011, at 13:04, Thomas Morton wrote: It will take at least a year to put together a good bid, especially if we want to line up sponsors in advance of the bidding. (If we put a large budget in the bid with no evidence that we'll be able to fund it, we don't stand a chance. If we try

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
The money would come from the appropriate year's budget, though, not the current one (which covers spending between 1 Feb 2011 and end Jan 2012). Oh, of course, however any spare money from the underspend will carry over to the next budgets - was just suggesting this could be a future outlet

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Apparently there was a 2010 bid to host it in Oxford as well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids/Oxford which got shortlisted to the final three. Tom ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-27 Thread Gordon Joly
On 27/07/2011 11:38, WereSpielChequers wrote: Another reason is that holding back and not bidding for 2013 would give us time to develop a Wikimania team by getting them involved in helping make 2012 and 2013 successful. Good plan. We can also have a look at previous bids that failed. BTW, I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
I rather fear that hosting Wikimania is a bit like the Olympics or the Eurovision song contest, a dubious honour that saps more from the host organisation than it generates. That said if there are a keen group of people who want to organise a UK Wikimania I have no objection to it being here in

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - was Some statistics about Wikimania 2011

2011-07-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 26 July 2011 16:47, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I rather fear that hosting Wikimania is a bit like the Olympics or the Eurovision song contest, a dubious honour that saps more from the host organisation than it generates. That said if there are a keen group of