Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-23 Thread joseph seddon
Then lets all get to work on the bid :)> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:38:26 -0500> From: thomas.dal...@gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM> > > - Oxford is chosen at the location for the Spring 2010 AGM in the r

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-22 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 22, 12:53 am, AndrewRT wrote: > Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that > the next Board meeting on tuesday I should of course have said _next_ tuesday, i.e. 30th! Just confusing myself again! ___ Wikimedia UK mail

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
> - Oxford is chosen at the location for the Spring 2010 AGM in the run > up to Wikimania That's only useful if we win the bid! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-21 Thread AndrewRT
Informed by the discussion we've had here, I'm going to propose that the next Board meeting on tuesday decide the location of the AGM so that we can start organising it. There seems to be a broad consensus that the location should be easily accessible by transport and should rotate around several

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
> Umm, +m? And sure you can hold actual discussions, it's just all > moderated through the Chair. I generally find, if anything, that the > meetings are more effective and efficient. Do you know how long that would take? The chair having to either forward every message or voice and unvoice people

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-18 Thread James Forrester
2008/12/14 Thomas Dalton : > 2008/12/14 David Gerard : >> 2008/12/14 AndrewRT : >> >>> There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it >>> gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to >>> know each other more that you can with an online meeting. >> >>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/14 David Gerard : > 2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > >> There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it >> gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to >> know each other more that you can with an online meeting. > > > For an AGM, a meeting in person ma

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it > gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to > know each other more that you can with an online meeting. For an AGM, a meeting in person may be appropriate, for all the social

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
> I hope we can find some way of > involving people remotely in the meeting as well - perhaps through a > videocam - does anyone know what Wikimania does for this? If such AV equipment is available at the chosen venue, we could try and live stream video of the meeting (I think that would dependant

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 1, 12:37 pm, "Michael Shilliday" wrote: > I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? >  Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now.  It may > be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, > but the voting memb

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Michael Shilliday : > I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? > Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now. It may > be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, > but the voting members don't necessar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Michael Shilliday
I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now. It may be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, but the voting members don't necessarily need to be. There may be a hugely

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/7 James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK folks, I asked around at the sqn, and the general consensus of opinion > was that the best place to meet would be Birmingham University itself - > there's a railway station in the middle of the campus (a direct line from > Birmingham New Street), plenty of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-07 Thread James
, and, of course, lots of cafés and bars around the place. James Humphreys (Colds7ream) -- From: "AndrewRT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:26 PM To: Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM > If yo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/2 AndrewRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 2, 10:08 pm, "michael west" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> m Wikipedian's aren't use this democratic type systems. Can't somebody >> right down some names of interesting towns in the UK and just pick one from >> a hat? Newcastle, Manchester, Birm

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 2, 10:08 pm, "michael west" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > m Wikipedian's aren't use this democratic type systems.  Can't somebody > right down some names of interesting towns in the UK and just pick one from > a hat? Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham and London all seem pretty > reasonabl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/2 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why don't you do the obvious and write down where everyone who definitely > wants to come to the AGM is from? That was the general idea with my map (although I decided not to specifically restrict it to people that wanted to come to the AGM because

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Sarah McCulloch
Why don't you do the obvious and write down where everyone who definitely wants to come to the AGM is from? 2008/12/2 michael west <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > m Wikipedian's aren't use this democratic type systems. Can't somebody > right down some names of interesting towns in the UK and just

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread michael west
m Wikipedian's aren't use this democratic type systems. Can't somebody right down some names of interesting towns in the UK and just pick one from a hat? Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham and London all seem pretty reasonable and easy to get to. m _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Oldak Quill
2008/12/1 James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Manchester or Birmingham would be a good bet I think - nice and central to > the whole UK, so everyone can get there without travelling too far. When you consider that Appleby Parva, Leicestershire was the [[centre of population]] in the UK in 2000 (http:/

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Sarah McCulloch
As far as Manchester goes, I asked and there's no rule that says I can't randomly hold an AGM for a completely unrelated organisation if it's properly booked in a society's name. I'm sure Students Against ID (all two of us) will be happy to have you. :-) Holding it on a Saturday will make it easie

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread AndrewRT
to Uni in the city itself, so I could easily ask them for advice as to > the best places to look at. > > James > > -- > From: "AndrewRT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:10 PM > To: <[EM

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread James
look at. James -- From: "AndrewRT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:10 PM To: Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM > > On Dec 2, 1:45 pm, "Thomas Dalton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Agreed. Lo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 2, 1:45 pm, "Thomas Dalton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed. London, Birmingham or Manchester are all pretty accessible. > My only thoughts on Birmingham is that we don't seem to have any activists from there who could organise venues. Andrew

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/2 Michael Bimmler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/12/1 Marco Chiesa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> For an AGM, I believe the priority should go to having as many people as >> possible, particularly this being the first one. > > Hear, hear. (sorry, this was just to prove to Thomas that I do manage, >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 1 Dec 2008, at 18:00, Al Tally wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm not considering centrality - I'm considering that if you all > come to > > Manchester I'll be able go to the AGM :P > > > Maybe but

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Bimmler
2008/12/1 Marco Chiesa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For an AGM, I believe the priority should go to having as many people as > possible, particularly this being the first one. Hear, hear. (sorry, this was just to prove to Thomas that I do manage, when I'm sitting in front of a real computer) In Switze

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Marco Chiesa
2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Maybe but what else is there to do in Manchester wikipedia wise? >> Oxford has pitt rivers. While there is the Museum of Science and >> Industry in Manchester I don't know much about it

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM, geni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm not considering centrality - I'm considering that if you all come to > > Manchester I'll be able go to the AGM :P > > > Maybe but what else is there to do in Manchester wikipedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread geni
2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not considering centrality - I'm considering that if you all come to > Manchester I'll be able go to the AGM :P Maybe but what else is there to do in Manchester wikipedia wise? Oxford has pitt rivers. While there is the Museum of Science and In

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Sarah McCulloch
I'm not considering centrality - I'm considering that if you all come to Manchester I'll be able go to the AGM :P 2008/12/1 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just because everyone turned up from Euston in this case simply confirms > > what I wa

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just because everyone turned up from Euston in this case simply confirms > what I was saying - Londoners thought it was worth making the trip, people > from say, Bolton, would have decided Salford was difficult to get to and > stayed at home. When co

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Sarah McCulloch
Just because everyone turned up from Euston in this case simply confirms what I was saying - Londoners thought it was worth making the trip, people from say, Bolton, would have decided Salford was difficult to get to and stayed at home. When considering cities the ease with which the station can be

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Tom Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The population center of Great Britain is currently a bit south of Appleby > Parva ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_population#Great_Britain ), > which is roughly halfway between Birmingham and Leicester: The population centre by distance, maybe,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Tom Holden
The population center of Great Britain is currently a bit south of Appleby Parva ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_population#Great_Britain ), which is roughly halfway between Birmingham and Leicester: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Appleby%20Parva.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.m ozilla:en-GB

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread J.A. Humphreys
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2008/12/1 J.A. Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >>> 2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 J.A. Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thomas Dalton wrote: >> 2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If I may interject, Salford is quit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Paul Williams
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:56 PM, AndrewRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oxford would also be a good choice, as its the location for our > Wikimania 2010 bid so would be a good opportunity to familiarise > ourselves with the city (and have some experience organising an event > - albeit much smaller

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread J.A. Humphreys
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. P

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread James Farrar
2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. >> > Proximity to Manchester Piccadilly and Victoria

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Al Tally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. >> > Proximity to Manchester Piccadilly and Victoria

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. > > Proximity to Manchester Piccadilly and Victoria would be a better > criterion. > > :) > > Well, ye

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Sarah McCulloch
I said that because I suspect all the Londoners didn't realise the unhelpful location of Salford and made the effort, and those nearer didn't bother. 2008/12/1 Thomas Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Sarah McCulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. > Proximity to Manchester Piccadilly and Victoria would be a better criterion. > :) Well, yes, but that doesn't affect Alison's point. Anywhere in Manchester would have been a bad

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Alison Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, December 1, 2008 08:03, James wrote: >> Manchester or Birmingham would be a good bet I think - nice and central to >> the whole UK, so everyone can get there without travelling too far. > > Locations can be so problematic though. I went to the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Sarah McCulloch
If I may interject, Salford is quite hard to get to, even for locals. Proximity to Manchester Piccadilly and Victoria would be a better criterion. :) Dev 2008/12/1 Alison Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, December 1, 2008 08:03, James wrote: > > Manchester or Birmingham would be a good bet I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread Alison Wheeler
On Mon, December 1, 2008 08:03, James wrote: > Manchester or Birmingham would be a good bet I think - nice and central to > the whole UK, so everyone can get there without travelling too far. Locations can be so problematic though. I went to the founding meeting of a national organisation years ag

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-01 Thread James
] Location of AGM If you want to meet in Manchester I may be able to provide meeting space for up to 200 people in our student union/university depending on time of day. Dev 2008/11/30 AndrewRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the last Board meeting, one of the matters that was briefly discusse

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-11-30 Thread Sarah McCulloch
If you do it during the day it will definitely be free - but my student union closes to non-members at 5 (to get round alcohol licencing laws) and I'm not sure just how many "guests" they'd let me bring in. :-) For other times I shall enquire. Dev 2008/11/30 AndrewRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Nov

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-11-30 Thread AndrewRT
On Nov 30, 11:03 pm, "Sarah McCulloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to meet in Manchester I may be able to provide meeting space for > up to 200 people in our student union/university depending on time of day. Many thanks for the offer! Let's see what people say about location and we m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-11-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
> This probably wont be decide for a few weeks yet, but would be good to > get peoples' views. If you want to get somewhere for free it needs to be decided sooner rather than later - getting freebies takes time since you have to get all the right signatures in all the right places, paying for stuf

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-11-30 Thread Sarah McCulloch
If you want to meet in Manchester I may be able to provide meeting space for up to 200 people in our student union/university depending on time of day. Dev 2008/11/30 AndrewRT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At the last Board meeting, one of the matters that was briefly > discussed what where the AGM in J

[Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-11-30 Thread AndrewRT
At the last Board meeting, one of the matters that was briefly discussed what where the AGM in Jan/Feb should be held. London would seem an obvious option for me - although not geographically central, it is easy to get to from all parts of the country, Oxford would also be a good choice, as its t