[Wikitech-l] New password hashing proposal

2010-08-18 Thread Tim Starling
It's been said (e.g. [1]) that hashing passwords with two rounds of MD5 is basically a waste of time these days, because brute-forcing even relatively long passwords is now feasible with cheap hardware. Indeed, you can buy software [2] which claims to be able to check 90 million MediaWiki passwords

Re: [Wikitech-l] Demo for XMPP-Based RC-Notifications

2010-08-18 Thread MZMcBride
Daniel Kinzler wrote: > I have put some more details about the idea and the demo setup at > . I put some comments and questions on the talk page.[1] I figured that was as good a place as any. MZMcBride [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing Framework

2010-08-18 Thread Trevor Parscal
On 8/9/10 11:27 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > Dan Nessett writes: > >> For unit tests the tester directly accesses the code and so has direct >> access to LocalSettings. For selenium testing, we originally had a >> configuration file called SeleniumLocalSettings.php, but that was >> abandoned

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread David Gerard
On 19 August 2010 02:19, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Tomasz was unable to reproduce the bug using the same browser version, > but different phone. Perhaps K. Peachey is right and it depends on how > much memory the phone is allocating to the browser. That appears to have been the problem with older B

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
A bug has been set up for the IEMobile issue: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24862 Tomasz was unable to reproduce the bug using the same browser version, but different phone. Perhaps K. Peachey is right and it depends on how much memory the phone is allocating to the browser. Ry

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread K. Peachey
I think you guys are experiencing the java-script load issues, Due to our amount of javascript that is loaded some browsers (eg: IE6 on desktop) can't handle it and refuses to load and errors out, This should will be fixed when the work on the resource loader branch is finished and merged.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread Maciej Jaros
At 2010-08-18 21:50, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I just looked and I could only find 2 bugs filed about Vector not > working on mobile devices. The first was for it being broken in NetFront > browsers. This was fixed less than a month after being reported (and > within a week of Wikimedia getting a dev

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I just looked and I could only find 2 bugs filed about Vector not working on mobile devices. The first was for it being broken in NetFront browsers. This was fixed less than a month after being reported (and within a week of Wikimedia getting a device to test on). The second was for Vector cras

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM, David Gerard wrote: > "that's it. :) the mobile site works. but i am not going to bother > using it. *effort*. it doesn't show up in google results and i have > epic cba." > > Not sure what the bit about Google results means ... > I think they mean that when they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread David Gerard
I got the browser string! Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile 6.0) Vodafone/1.0/HTC_Touch_Pro2/1.14.161.6 (50207) The user adds: "that's it. :) the mobile site works. but i am not going to bother using it. *effort*. it doesn't show up in google results and i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 August 2010 19:57, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I'm not sure insulting the people who worked on Vector is the best way > to motivated them to fix things. At the last company I worked for (which > owns a couple of top 100 websites and has a staff of thousands), they > didn't even care about their s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin failures on mobile phones - any timeframe for a fix?

2010-08-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On 8/17/10 2:33 PM, David Gerard wrote: > ...Wikipedia deliberately broke itself so therefore it's > Wikipedia's stupidity. (And this is not an unreasonable description of > how it happened.) > I'm not sure insulting the people who worked on Vector is the best way to motivated them to fix thin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Storing data across requests

2010-08-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Michael Dale wrote: > On 07/29/2010 10:15 AM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I have been working on getting asynchronous upload from url to work >> properly[1]. A problem that I encountered was that I need to store >> data across requests. Normally I would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Demo for XMPP-Based RC-Notifications

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Addendum: I have put some more details about the idea and the demo setup at . -- daniel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikit