[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87296]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "TheDJ" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87296. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87296#c16507 Commit summary: * Impove localization. * Add Dutch localization Comment: UTF-16 text files actually, but apparently SVN isn't smart enough for that. __

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87317]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Siebrand" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87317. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87317#c16506 Commit summary: Removed unused messages: 'extremelycomplextest' 'internallinktest' 'linktest' 'magictest' 'mwe-copyright-custom' 'mwe-copyright-macro' 'mwe-loading-up

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87296]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Nikerabbit" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87296. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87296#c16505 Commit summary: * Impove localization. * Add Dutch localization Comment: Localisation in binary files?? ___ MediaWiki-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson
Bounces? That is, some return codes from a program delivery can be interpreted as a failed delivery. Or perhaps the program is segfaulting or running out of memory? Or replies sent to the envelope sender, which can be interpreted as bounces, but which lack the empty sender of a real bounce. R

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r9196]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Xqt" changed the status of pywikipedia.r9196. Old Status: new New Status: resolved Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/9196#c0 Commit summary: Allow lists of Page and User objects to be interogated ___ MediaWiki-Code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Media embedding: oEmbed feedback?

2011-05-02 Thread Michael Dale
sorry for the re-post ( having trouble with the wikitech-l list post email migration :( I would also be interested in discussing this in Berlin or otherwise ;) I can offer some notes about video embedding inline: On 04/29/2011 03:30 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: >> > > Enhanced media player goodies li

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87308]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "MaxSem" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87308. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87308#c16504 Commit summary: better language handling - abandon magic language switch in favor of using int:lang as parameter, use parser->getFunctionLang() instead of wgContLanguag

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87292]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Aaron Schulz" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87292. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87292#c16503 Commit summary: * (bug 20468) User::invalidateCache throws 1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded Severly limit the number of calls that actually update the database (f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread Ryan Lane
I'd also love to know how it keeps getting unsubscribed. This is the third time... On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:03 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Happy-melon wrote: >> Wow, now here's a blast from the past... :-D  A lot of these stats are now >> in the BZ4 report page, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Media embedding: oEmbed feedback?

2011-05-02 Thread Michael Dale
I would also be interested in discussing this in Berlin or otherwise ;) I can offer some notes about video embedding inline: On 04/29/2011 03:30 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > Enhanced media player goodies like embedding have been slowly coming along, > > with a handy embedding option now available

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87232]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Reedy" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87232. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87232#c16502 Commit summary: Make a method static per the comment, update the only non static usage (in Parser) itself Comment: That's slightly amusing. It had one doing it one way

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Happy-melon wrote: > Wow, now here's a blast from the past... :-D  A lot of these stats are now > in the BZ4 report page, but it's still very nice to have the weekly > reminder.  Cookie for whoever dug it out and got it going again! > > --HM Ryan resubscribed the e

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread Happy-melon
"reporter" wrote in message news:e1pprj3-bs...@kaulen.wikimedia.org... > MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for November 29, 2010 - December 06, 2010 ... "reporter" wrote in message news:e1qgwls-000389...@kaulen.wikimedia.org... > MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for April 25, 2011 - May 02, 2011 > Wow

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > >> I don't think that's a fundamental problem, I think it's a quick hack >> added to reduce the development time devoted to rare wikitext >> constructs, while maintaining round-trip safety.

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 03/05/11 04:25, Brion Vibber wrote: > > The most fundamental problem with Wikia's editor remains its fallback > > behavior when some structure is unsupported: > > > > "Source mode required > > > > Rich text editing has been disabled beca

Re: [Wikitech-l] Release schedule for the rest of 2011 (was: Status of 1.17 & 1.18)

2011-05-02 Thread Chad
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Happy-melon wrote: > If a feature freeze is to work, it has to either a) be for a very short > period so that developers neither get disenchanted and wander off nor start > stockpiling working-copy changes to empty onto trunk once it's thawed, or b) > be part of a f

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Chad
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Chad wrote: > People want to write their own parsers because they don't want to use PHP. > They want to parse in C, Java, Ruby, Python, Perl, Assembly and every > other language other than the one that it wasn't written in. s/wasn't/was/ -Chad ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Chad
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > I know that there is a camp of data reusers who like to write their > own parsers. I think there are more people who have written a wikitext > parser from scratch than have contributed even a small change to the > MediaWiki core parser. They ha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread Tomasz Finc
Indeed .. i remember writing this report for brion years ago. brings back memories. --tomasz On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Happy-melon wrote: > > "reporter" wrote in message > news:e1pprj3-bs...@kaulen.wikimedia.org... > > MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for November 29, 2010 - December 06, 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Tim Starling
On 03/05/11 04:25, Brion Vibber wrote: > The most fundamental problem with Wikia's editor remains its fallback > behavior when some structure is unsupported: > > "Source mode required > > Rich text editing has been disabled because the page contains complex > code." I don't think that's a fu

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 05/02/2011 06:40 PM, Owen Davis wrote: > I think the current plan is to see what transpires with the > upcoming Parser redesign and keep our code in sync. The > primary authors of this RTE reskin will be at the Berlin > hackathon as well. Who are those authors? I'd like to know so I can find

Re: [Wikitech-l] Release schedule for the rest of 2011 (was: Status of 1.17 & 1.18)

2011-05-02 Thread Happy-melon
"Chad" wrote in message news:BANLkTikd4Eb-V8W-kA1qe+=bnjxmj+o...@mail.gmail.com... > > I understand, respect, and value the contributions of people who want to > add new features. Features are what moves the product forward, and at > no point do we want to be hostile to people willing to put in

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Owen Davis
Brion Vibber pobox.com> writes: > Note that for Wikipedia that's not just going to affect experienced editors Very true! I think we have more inexperienced editors, and that's been a product design focus for us for a while so I tend to make assumptions based on that. > Do you mean that it d

Re: [Wikitech-l] auditcode.py - discern class structure

2011-05-02 Thread Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson
Am using vim, which knows about ctags. Exuberant ctags (which is the name of a piece of software) knows about languages other than C. It seems not to know about class structure, and which function is being overridden where. I want to be able to read through the code that my Swift interface will

Re: [Wikitech-l] auditcode.py - discern class structure

2011-05-02 Thread Ryan Lane
I totally <3 that you wrote it in python. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson wrote: > Maybe there's a better tool to tell you what function is defined in what > class in PHP, but I couldn't find one in the time it would take me to write > it, so I wrote it. It's not ev

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Tim Starling
On 03/05/11 04:54, Alex wrote: > Question: why does it have to normalise at all? > > I do think that the editing environment at Wikipedia means that consistent > non-normalised editing by wikitext users and subsequent normalisation by > anyone using WYSIWYG would be messy and disruptive, but would

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86927]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r86927. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86927#c16501 Commit summary: adding language support to #time parser function, per bug 28655 Comment: After talking with Platonides, I've redone the language handling. See r87308.

Re: [Wikitech-l] auditcode.py - discern class structure

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson < rnnel...@clarkson.edu> wrote: > Maybe there's a better tool to tell you what function is defined in what > class in PHP, but I couldn't find one in the time it would take me to write > it, so I wrote it. Depending on what you're tryi

[Wikitech-l] auditcode.py - discern class structure

2011-05-02 Thread Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson
Maybe there's a better tool to tell you what function is defined in what class in PHP, but I couldn't find one in the time it would take me to write it, so I wrote it. It's not even a screenful. Give it the class definitions, in class hierarchy order, on the command line. It will pull out the cl

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Platonides wrote: > > But it's not an intractable problem. Essentially, anything in the format: > > > > {{start}} > > content1 > > content2 > > {{end}} > > > > can be rewritten something like: > > > > {{container| > > content1 > > content2 > > }

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Owen Davis wrote: > Hi, I work at Wikia (although I am relatively new and I have only > made small modifications to the editor). Hi! > This basic criticism of > the design is true and is still the source of issues, but it's been > improving. I think another p

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Platonides
Brion Vibber wrote: >> {{Open template}} text {{Close template}} structures are IMHO a big >> problem for any WYSIWYG editor. >> But there's no way they are going away. > > > If we determine they have to go, then we can devise ways to find and migrate > them -- it'll be a process that takes time a

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Platonides wrote: > > If we can devise a way to consistently treat expansions that *aren't* a > > hierarchical match fro the HTML node tree, then we might not have to > change > > templates much. If we can't, then we might have to start enforcing > > hierarchical t

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Owen Davis
Roan Kattouw gmail.com> writes: > While I'm sure this particular bug has been fixed, it sounds like the > underlying problem remains. FCKeditor seems to be converting wikitext > to HTML, let users edit the HTML, then convert the HTML back to > wikitext. The bugs would then result from the fact th

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Platonides wrote: > Magnus Manske wrote: >> >> So, why not use my WYSIFTW approach? It will only "parse" the parts of >> the wikitext that it can turn back, edited or unedited, into wikitext, >> unaltered (including whitespace) if not manually changed. Some parts >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Lee Worden
On 05/02/11 15:30, wikitech-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 00:29:51 +0200 > From: Platonides > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong > withWikia's WYSIWYG?) > To:wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: tex

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87306]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "^demon" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87306. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87306#c0 Commit summary: Remove empty files left by r16526, r29128 and r83029 ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-05-02 03:32 PM, Platonides wrote: > Brion Vibber wrote: >> A bigger deal will probably be actually changing structures that don't >> render consistently, and that'll depend on how brave we are changing nested >> template & table structures to fit a hierarchical document model. >> >> We've bas

Re: [Wikitech-l] Empty files in distribution

2011-05-02 Thread Platonides
Brion Vibber wrote: > Looks like just bad patch reverts that removed the file contents but didn't > actually delete. > > -- brion Gone in r87306. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Platonides
Brion Vibber wrote: > A bigger deal will probably be actually changing structures that don't > render consistently, and that'll depend on how brave we are changing nested > template & table structures to fit a hierarchical document model. > > We've basically got two levels of stuff: > > * parsing

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Freako F. Freakolowsky
best idea so far ... On 03. 05. 2011 00:29, Platonides wrote: > Magnus Manske wrote: >> So, why not use my WYSIFTW approach? It will only "parse" the parts of >> the wikitext that it can turn back, edited or unedited, into wikitext, >> unaltered (including whitespace) if not manually changed. Some

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86927]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r86927. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86927#c16500 Commit summary: adding language support to #time parser function, per bug 28655 Comment: Fixed in r87305 (only for #time, not for Language in

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86927]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r86927. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86927#c16499 Commit summary: adding language support to #time parser function, per bug 28655 Comment: Hopefully this is fixed in r87305. I don't know much

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Platonides
Magnus Manske wrote: > > So, why not use my WYSIFTW approach? It will only "parse" the parts of > the wikitext that it can turn back, edited or unedited, into wikitext, > unaltered (including whitespace) if not manually changed. Some parts > may therefore stay as wikitext, but it's very rare (exce

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87232]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Platonides" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87232. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87232#c16498 Commit summary: Make a method static per the comment, update the only non static usage (in Parser) itself Comment: extensions/News/NewsRenderer.php:

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87265]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Krinkle" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87265. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87265#c0 Commit summary: Fix r87203: don't use a for..in loop on an array ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview mai

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87303]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Krinkle" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87303. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87303#c0 Commit summary: Localisation updates for ToolserverI18N messages from translatewiki.net (2011-05-02 21:35:00 UTC) __

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87304]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Krinkle" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87304. Old Status: new New Status: deferred Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87304#c0 Commit summary: Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2011-05-02 21:42:00 UTC)

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87290]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Reedy" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87290. Old Status: fixme New Status: new Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87290#c0 Commit summary: Add makeInsertOptions Allow Sqlite to OR IGNORE on UPDATE or INSERT ___ Med

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87290]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Raymond" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87290. Old Status: new New Status: fixme User "Raymond" also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87290. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87290#c16497 Commit summary: Add makeInsertOptions Allow Sqlite to OR IGNORE on UPDA

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86409]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Krinkle" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r86409. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86409#c16496 Commit summary: (bug 28352) "blocked admins actually can't unblock themselves because it checks the wrong parameter". This doesn't need to be forward-ported as the en

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Fred Bauder > wrote: > >>> Beyond that let's flip the question the other way -- what do we *want* > >> out > >> of WYSIWYG editing, and can that tool provide it or what else do we > need? > > > > We want somet

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87277]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Jack Phoenix" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87277. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87277#c0 Commit summary: Fix and add some comments. ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview mailing list mediawi

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87291]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Jack Phoenix" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87291. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87291#c0 Commit summary: Renamed methods as per our coding standards... ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Magnus Manske
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > >> Beyond that let's flip the question the other way -- what do we *want* >> out >> of WYSIWYG editing, and can that tool provide it or what else do we need? > > We want something simpler and easier to use. That is not what Wikia has. > I could

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86962]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Thenub314" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r86962. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86962#c16495 Commit summary: The following changes enhance the way texvc handles space around mathematical function names when translating to HTML; adds support for the sen, the S

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Alex wrote: > Question: why does it have to normalise at all? > > I do think that the editing environment at Wikipedia means that consistent > non-normalised editing by wikitext users and subsequent normalisation by > anyone using WYSIWYG would be messy and disrup

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Alex
Question: why does it have to normalise at all? I do think that the editing environment at Wikipedia means that consistent non-normalised editing by wikitext users and subsequent normalisation by anyone using WYSIWYG would be messy and disruptive, but would a change whereby it more precisely recor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Media embedding: oEmbed feedback?

2011-05-02 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 04/29/2011 05:40 PM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: >> currently there's no exposed >> license metadata (highly desired for Wikimedia's usage, obviously) >> > Krinkle and me have been working on that a while ago, but after > discussion on this lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > On 11-05-02 08:12 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > No. I clearly said there would be small amounts of normalisation to > > deal with new wikitext edits, but that the whole article would only > > need to be normalised once. I was not assuming we w

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Thomas Dalton writes: > On 2 May 2011 13:09, Roan Kattouw wrote: >> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Maury Markowitz >> wrote: >>> Editors do this all the time anyway. Typically using automated tools >>> so they don't have to do any actual work. >>> >> Sure, but those aren't typically mixed with

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Fred Bauder
> Beyond that let's flip the question the other way -- what do we *want* > out > of WYSIWYG editing, and can that tool provide it or what else do we need? We want something simpler and easier to use. That is not what Wikia has. I could hardly stand trying it out for a few minutes. Fred ___

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83795]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Happy-melon" changed the status of MediaWiki.r83795. Old Status: fixme New Status: new Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83795#c0 Commit summary: Follow-up r83794, r83792: restore new SpecialBlock.php code from r83786. This revision should *not* be broken :D

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87270]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "^demon" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87270. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87270#c0 Commit summary: Update PHP minimum version checks to 5.2.3 ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview mailing li

[Wikitech-l] WYSIWYG and parser plans (was What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?)

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > Can someone please tell me, in precise technical terms, what is wrong > with Wikia's WYSIWYG editor and why we can't use it? > > I have heard that it has bugs in it, but I have not been told exactly > what these bugs are, why they are more rel

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87258]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87258. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87258#c16494 Commit summary: FlickrChecker fixes, follow-up to r87002 and r87031 Comment: Oops! Should be fixed in r87269. __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Release schedule for the rest of 2011 (was: Status of 1.17 & 1.18)

2011-05-02 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 02/05/11 09:06, Max Semenik wrote: > I started that athttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.17 some > time ago, needs more collaboration. And I started the 1.18 one with illustrative (and free) pictures :p http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.18 -- Ashar Voultoiz __

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87259]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87259. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87259#c0 Commit summary: revert accidental inclusion of mw.FlickrChecker.js, not ready yet __

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87031]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87031. Old Status: fixme New Status: resolved Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87031#c0 Commit summary: further work on FlickrChecker module ___ Med

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87002]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87002. Old Status: fixme New Status: resolved Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87002#c0 Commit summary: initial partially functioning version of FlickrChecker _

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87258]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87258. Old Status: new New Status: fixme User "Catrope" also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87258. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87258#c16493 Commit summary: FlickrChecker fixes, follow-up

Re: [Wikitech-l] Leaderboard extension?

2011-05-02 Thread Owen Davis
Daniel Mietchen googlemail.com> writes: > > Thank you, Siebrand! > > Daniel > Hello, I work at Wikia and I am familiar with that extension. If you have any specific questions feel free to get in touch with me. Also, there's a less raw view of the code available via trac: http://trac.wikia

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87203]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87203. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87203#c16492 Commit summary: (bug 28738) Implement request splitting in mw.loader so ResourceLoader requests with query strings longer than a certain value

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87203]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "✓" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87203. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87203#c16491 Commit summary: (bug 28738) Implement request splitting in mw.loader so ResourceLoader requests with query strings longer than a certain value are split up. The maximum quer

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87262]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Reedy" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87262. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87262#c16490 Commit summary: Closures are a PHP 5.3 feature. MediaWiki currently requires PHP 5.2.3 or higher. Replacing anonymous function, aka closure with traditional method. Com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Empty files in distribution

2011-05-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Platonides wrote: > Johannes Weberhofer wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > there are two empty files in the distribution. Are they of any usage? > > > > /maintenance/archives/patch-page_no_title_convert.sql > > /maintenance/archives/patch-image_reditects.sql > > They ar

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87260]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Nikerabbit" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87260. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87260#c16489 Commit summary: * Removed Skin::reallyGenerateUserStylesheet() nothing uses it and nothing overrides it * Corrected Skin::generateUserJs() and Skin::generateUserSty

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87002]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87002. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87002#c16488 Commit summary: initial partially functioning version of FlickrChecker Comment: Fixed in r87258. ___

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87031]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87031. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87031#c16487 Commit summary: further work on FlickrChecker module Comment: Fixed in r87258. ___ MediaWiki-Cod

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87031]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Kaldari" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87031. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87031#c16486 Commit summary: further work on FlickrChecker module Comment: I wanted to get feedback from neil on the interface implementation before I ac

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87257]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87257. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87257#c0 Commit summary: consistant use of jQuery object ___ MediaWiki-CodeRe

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-02 Thread reporter
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for April 25, 2011 - May 02, 2011 Status changes this week Bugs NEW : 411 Bugs ASSIGNED : 39 Bugs REOPENED : 72 Bugs RESOLVED

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r84169]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "^demon" changed the status of MediaWiki.r84169. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/84169#c0 Commit summary: Also remove message as followup to r84133 ___ MediaWiki-CodeReview mailing lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] Release schedule for the rest of 2011 (was: Status of 1.17 & 1.18)

2011-05-02 Thread Chad
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Max Semenik wrote: > On 02.05.2011, 10:41 Tim wrote: > >> It would be nice if someone could write a user-oriented summary of the >> major changes in the branch, like I did for 1.16. The 1.16 one was >> used for the RELEASE-NOTES file, the mediawiki-announce email an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Release schedule for the rest of 2011 (was: Status of 1.17 & 1.18)

2011-05-02 Thread Chad
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Tim Starling wrote: >> Looking ahead to 1.19, I'd like to do the same and branch soon after 1.18 has >> been dropped. Since 1.19's a little further out and hasn't started taking >> shape >> yet, I'd like to go ahead and propose what sort of release we should aim fo

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-05-02 08:12 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 2 May 2011 15:31, David Gerard wrote: >> On 2 May 2011 15:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >>> The normalisation only really needs to happen once, though. There may >>> be a few little bits where people have made wikitext edits since the >>> last WYSIWYG

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 2 May 2011 15:31, David Gerard wrote: > On 2 May 2011 15:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> The normalisation only really needs to happen once, though. There may >> be a few little bits where people have made wikitext edits since the >> last WYSIWYG edit, but the whole article will only need to be

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87226]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87226. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87226#c0 Commit summary: * (bug 28265) allow outputting of comments for action=expandtemplates __

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87242]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87242. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87242#c0 Commit summary: Followup r87225 Best to rename everything when you rename something ___

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87225]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87225. Old Status: new New Status: ok User "Catrope" also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87225. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87225#c16485 Commit summary: * (bug 27185) API: Add Special:Com

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87206]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87206. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87206#c0 Commit summary: * (bug 26664) Add 'url' to meta=globaluserinfo and/or 'database' to action=sitematrix Added URL

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87216]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87216. Old Status: new New Status: ok Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87216#c0 Commit summary: Use HTML5 for formatted API output ___ MediaWiki-Cod

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83795]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Reedy" changed the status of MediaWiki.r83795. Old Status: new New Status: fixme User "Reedy" also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r83795. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83795#c16484 Commit summary: Follow-up r83794, r83792: restore new SpecialBlock.php code

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 May 2011 15:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: > The normalisation only really needs to happen once, though. There may > be a few little bits where people have made wikitext edits since the > last WYSIWYG edit, but the whole article will only need to be > normalised the first time there is a WYSIWYG e

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 2 May 2011 13:09, Roan Kattouw wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Maury Markowitz > wrote: >> Editors do this all the time anyway. Typically using automated tools >> so they don't have to do any actual work. Surely someone here has had >> to wade through someone changing every REF to tha

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87031]: Revision status changed

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" changed the status of MediaWiki.r87031. Old Status: ok New Status: fixme Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87031#c0 Commit summary: further work on FlickrChecker module ___ MediaWiki

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87031]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Catrope" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87031. Full URL: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87031#c16483 Commit summary: further work on FlickrChecker module Comment: +* Retrieve the list of all current Flickr licenses and store it in an

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87245]: New comment added

2011-05-02 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User "Reedy" posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87245. Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87245#c16482 Commit summary: bug id : 28094 + bug related to the red link closed Comment: You do realise core MW has jquery 1.4.4 included?

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Maury Markowitz wrote: > Editors do this all the time anyway. Typically using automated tools > so they don't have to do any actual work. Surely someone here has had > to wade through someone changing every REF to that bag of hammers CITE > tag. > Sure, but those ar

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is wrong with Wikia's WYSIWYG?

2011-05-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > What about using a kind of document tree representation of wikitext? > You could have an intermediate representation which precisely > represents all of the source wikitext, but was easy to convert to > displayable HTML. Kind of like HTML, but

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