Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:18:47 -0700, Risker wrote: I agree with Chris and Derric here; at least in the "western world", a large percentage of IE7 users have not upgraded for "Enterprise" reasons. Many of these enterprises use proprietary software that is written for IE7, and upgrading to the I

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC bots and notifications

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: >>> Bugzilla IRC notifications are handled by wikibugs. It is a perl script >>> that process bugzilla email notifications merged the first version of wikibugs.pp https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8339/ -- Daniel Zahn

[Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi I was wondering what the policy is for the right to merge into core, i.e. for being able to give +2 and "publish and submit" on gerrit. There sooms to be total confusion about the policy for that. To me this seems more or less equivalent to commit access to svn, no? Anyway. I pretty much need

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread David Gerard
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for data from Wikimedia Foundation for academic research

2012-06-15 Thread Derric Atzrott
Although I can't speak for the Research Committee, I agree with Pradeep that this is unlikely to violate any users privacy. ASN cover very broad areas, significantly broader areas than you can gain with the first three octets of an IP address. So they should reveal less information than 125.237.8

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Hi > > I was wondering what the policy is for the right to merge into core, i.e. for > being able to give +2 and "publish and submit" on gerrit. There sooms to be > total confusion about the policy for that. > > To me this seems more or less

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 15.06.2012 14:41, Chad wrote: > The equivalence of having commit access to /trunk/phase3, at least. Yea... so I would have thought that anyone who had that level of access would have gotten merge rights automatically. Oh, well. > Right now the process is to ask on-wiki[0]. People have a chance

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread MZMcBride
Daniel Friesen wrote: > I do have to mention something on this whole topic. All these arguments > seem to focus on saying that that IE6/7 should be supported because > enterprises are dependent on out of date software and can't update. > This line of thought completely ignores the fact that upgradi

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread MZMcBride
Daniel Friesen wrote: > IT departments need to start maintaining their computers and employees > need to start demanding that the computers they work with are kept to > modern standards. > People keep bringing up legacy apps as a reason that IT departments > cannot give employees a properly maintai

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Svip
On 14 June 2012 20:49, Tyler wrote: > Yes, Microsoft was great when they made IE 6, but when IE 7 came out, > Microsoft killed > the Internet star. I mean, HTML 5? What? I read a book that said after HTML > 4.01, it would > be XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 ... not HTML 5! I recommend you learn a thing

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:15:47 -0700, MZMcBride wrote: Daniel Friesen wrote: IT departments need to start maintaining their computers and employees need to start demanding that the computers they work with are kept to modern standards. People keep bringing up legacy apps as a reason that IT depa

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Steve Summit
MZMcBride wrote: > Right... well, again, just like the OP, you're focusing on how you feel the > world should be while completely ignoring reality. It's not a matter of > catering to obstinate IT folks. It's a matter of being pragmatic about the > current landscape and its limitations. This touche

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 06/15/2012 08:41 AM, Chad wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> Hi >> >> I was wondering what the policy is for the right to merge into core, i.e. for >> being able to give +2 and "publish and submit" on gerrit. There sooms to be >> total confusion about the policy

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread James Forrester
On 15 June 2012 01:30, Daniel Friesen wrote: > I do have to mention something on this whole topic. All these arguments seem > to focus on saying that that IE6/7 should be supported because enterprises > are dependent on out of date software and can't update. > This line of thought completely ignor

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: >> If i want to be able to commit to extension X. i first have to file a > request on the "developer access" page, and then another request for > "project membership"? on a page that is named "project ownership"? > Membership != ownershi

[Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2012-06-15 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > If you merge into mediawiki/core.git, your change is considered safe for > inclusion in a wmf branch.  The wmf branch is just branched out of > master and then deployed. We don't review it again.  Because we're > deploying more frequen

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/06/12 14:06, David Gerard wrote: > > > - d. » Yes, I switched to IE because I liked better the typeface it was showing the pages... ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] who can merge into core/master?

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/06/12 17:48, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > Just have *one* page for all requests. gerrit account, group > membership, project ownership, gerrit repo... one request queue, at > least for all things that need feedback/voting They have different needs. - project ownership is watched by many peo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming cultural heritage hackathon, autumn 2012 in Denmark

2012-06-15 Thread Platonides
On 14/06/12 21:56, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > It's now planned for October 5-6. It would be great for European > Wikimedia experts to go and teach people about the MediaWiki API, > uploading tools, Commons gadgets, and so on. That's the weekend after the closing of WLM 2012 contest.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2012-06-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > It would also be nice if we didn't have to resort to the nuclear > option to get the point across.  One low-stakes way we can use to make > sure people are more careful is to have some sort of rotating "oops" > award.  At one former job I had,

[Wikitech-l] Gerrit CLI lib

2012-06-15 Thread Ori Livneh
I started hacking together a node.js library for building command-line tools around Gerrit's JSON-RPC API. I put a demo up on GitHub: https://github.com/atdt/gerp. Looking for interested parties to fork / help out. Feedback welcome. Ori ___ Wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit CLI lib

2012-06-15 Thread drecodeam
hey Ori, I don know if you have already seen it, but you might wanna look at Git.js (https://github.com/danlucraft/git.js) and its implementation. Thanks, drecodeam On Saturday 16 June 2012 at 6:36 AM, Ori Livneh wrote: > I started hacking together a node.js library for building command-line

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2012-06-15 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sumana Harihareswara > wrote: > > If you merge into mediawiki/core.git, your change is considered safe for > > inclusion in a wmf branch. The wmf branch is just branched out of > > master and then deployed.