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* the ContentHandler branch is being reviewed to land in Core next
week, as Rob said. There is a separate thread on that.
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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Daniel Friesen
dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
- Extensions should probably have some sort of manifest file. What
format should it be in and what information should it contain?
I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should ask
I know the bot-people loves changes, so here is a bit more!
The token handling through use of a special url-argument gettoken
and the special itemtoken has died in flames. Use edittoken from
actione=tokens
(http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php?action=tokenstype=editformat=jsonfm)
and
Le 28/09/12 03:47, Mark A. Hershberger a écrit :
snip
The problem, though, is that there is no way to install, use, or update
extensions apart from doing it by hand. Requiring the installation of
multiple modules by hand isn't going to lead to a thriving, modular
ecosystem. We need a
when it will start working??
Thanks
Harsh
On 28-Sep-2012, at 12:31 AM, John wrote:
ccing both lists, dab just rebooted s3 which is probably the cause
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Sep 27, 2012 12:19 PM, Harsh Kothari harshkothari...@gmail.com
Im ccing Tparis on this, it should be running without issue
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Harsh Kothari
harshkothari...@gmail.com wrote:
when it will start working??
Thanks
Harsh
On 28-Sep-2012, at 12:31 AM, John wrote:
ccing both lists, dab just rebooted s3 which is probably the cause
On 28 September 2012 02:47, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote:
The problem, though, is that there is no way to install, use, or update
extensions apart from doing it by hand. Requiring the installation of
multiple modules by hand isn't going to lead to a thriving, modular
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:53 AM, John Erling Blad jeb...@gmail.com wrote:
The token handling through use of a special url-argument gettoken
and the special itemtoken has died in flames. Use edittoken from
actione=tokens
After the ones about sending email and Common Lisp, we can add:
Every app also expands until it contains a sketchy rewrite of apt-get.
c.f. Perl, PHP, Ruby, Python, WordPress ...
One thing to possibly think about: compatibility of any new system
with Linux distro packaging mechanisms, like
After the ones about sending email and Common Lisp, we can add:
Every app also expands until it contains a sketchy rewrite of apt-get.
c.f. Perl, PHP, Ruby, Python, WordPress ...
One thing to possibly think about: compatibility of any new system
with Linux distro packaging mechanisms, like
I made it up at work a few weeks ago :-) We were discussing the
questionable maintainability of apps and languages that insist on
handrolling their own dependency management, particularly when they do
it in a way that doesn't match how distros do it.
On 28 September 2012 15:23, Derric Atzrott
On 28 September 2012 15:25, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Where is that quote from? It is so incredibly true.
Sorry all. I meant to send that to just him.
And then I failed to notice I was sending to the list too.
apt-get purge clue
- d.
The tool is working for me:
https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Alchimistalang=guwiki=wikipedia
and the user you've pointed also:
https://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Harsh4101991lang=guwiki=wikipedia
Despite that, seems that sometimes it's quite low, for once it
Yeah This is tool is working now.. But replication tag is high..
Caution: Replication lag is high, changes newer than 3 days, 19 hours, 38
minutes, 23 seconds may not be shown.
Thanks
Harsh
On 28-Sep-2012, at 8:07 PM, Alchimista wrote:
The tool is working for me:
When I was hired as QA Lead almost seven months ago, WMF lacked a test
environment where
* code was routinely deployed ahead of production
* the test environment emulated the production environment closely
* aspects of the test environment (config, permissions, etc.) could be
easily and reliably
http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
I am a bad editor.
-Chris
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
When I was hired as QA Lead almost seven months ago, WMF lacked a test
environment where
* code was routinely deployed
On 09/28/2012 09:22 AM, Antoine Musso wrote:
I'm talking about Composer (http://getcomposer.org/).
My past experiment is on the wiki at:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer
Awesome!
I do agree with David Gerard's assessment, though. We need to make sure
that whatever we use is going
On 28 September 2012 17:01, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote:
I do agree with David Gerard's assessment, though. We need to make sure
that whatever we use is going to work with package management tools that
Debian and Redhat and the like already use.
The other reason is, of
I do agree with David Gerard's assessment, though. We need to make sure
that whatever we use is going to work with package management tools that
Debian and Redhat and the like already use.
The other reason is, of course, making the distro versions of
MediaWiki not suck.
A great place to
On 09/28/2012 01:11 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote:
In the end it should be both. A web-based system to install extensions
for normal users. And cli scripts to install extensions for users
maintaining piles of wikis.
Agreed.
I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:40 -0700, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Daniel Friesen
dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
- Extensions should probably have some sort of manifest file. What
format should it be in and what information should it contain?
I
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org
wrote:
I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should
ask him what his plans were.
Working code great plans.
Chad has replied. I think he would agree that we don't think we need to
hold back
On 09/28/2012 12:15 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote:
With the exception of phpMyAdmin, I don't think I've ever seen a piece of PHP
software that you could really just apt-get and have easily installed. So
this
is definitely a worthy goal to pursue.
I too would love it if I could set up a simple
On 09/28/2012 12:29 PM, Chad wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org
wrote:
I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should
ask him what his plans were.
Working code great plans.
Chad has replied. I think he would agree that
Well in that case maybe we can get some sort of official design document
going so that we're planning rather than plinning. :P
*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:40
Chris, this sounds really cool. Can you point us to some specs about how
the test environment is set up (what is the architecture like, what
services are running, etc)? How closely does it emulate the production
environment? Does the beta labs environment provide load balanced
squid/varnish
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
When I was hired as QA Lead almost seven months ago, WMF lacked a test
environment where
* code was routinely deployed ahead of production
* the test environment emulated the production environment closely
* aspects
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Arthur Richards
aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Chris, this sounds really cool. Can you point us to some specs about how
the test environment is set up (what is the architecture like, what
services are running, etc)? How closely does it emulate the production
Dear Markus, Yury, Semantic MediaWikians, and Wikitechians,
Thanks for your feedback about Semantic mediawiki and map data
coordinate-wise, in terms of colors:
SMW does not have a special datatype for representing colours. You
can encode wavelengths as numbers. Sound data is not supported, nor
This is super awesome.
This is something that could be useful for MobileFrontend, although I
suspect there will need to be some additional configuration work to mimic
how mobile requests get handled on the cluster. I'll ping Antoine :)
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Chris McMahon
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Arthur Richards
aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
This is super awesome.
This is something that could be useful for MobileFrontend, although I
suspect there will need to be some additional configuration work to mimic
how mobile requests get handled on the
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Arthur Richards
aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
This is super awesome.
This is something that could be useful for MobileFrontend, although I
suspect there will need to be some
I'm planning to deploy Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for the wikimedia.org
domain on Weds October 5. SPF is a framework for validating outgoing mail,
which gives the receiving side useful information for spam filtering. The
main goal is to cause spoofed @wikimedia.org mail to be correctly
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:00:08 -0700, Jeff Green jgr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I'm planning to deploy Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for the
wikimedia.org domain on Weds October 5. SPF is a framework for
validating outgoing mail, which gives the receiving side useful
information for spam
You should also add an SPF record in addition to a TXT record, as
recommended by RFC 4408. The format is the same.
*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Daniel
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote:
1. How can I get access to this environment, so I can fiddle with it,
too (or is this done through test puppet changes or something?
Depends on what you mean by 'access' and 'fiddle'.
Beta labs is
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:00:08 -0700, Jeff Green jgr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm planning to deploy Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for the wikimedia.org
domain on Weds October 5. SPF is a framework for validating outgoing mail,
which gives the
Good point--thanks!
jg
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Tyler Romeo wrote:
You should also add an SPF record in addition to a TXT record, as
recommended by RFC 4408. The format is the same.
*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com |
On 09/28/2012 01:05 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
Well in that case maybe we can get some sort of official design document
going so that we're planning rather than plinning. :P
I'll again point to the work that Antoine has done. I haven't looked at
it yet (and I won't have time to do that today), but
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Jeff Green wrote:
The change should not be noticeable, but the most likely problem
would be legitimate @wikimedia.org mail being treated as spam. If
you hear of this happening please let me know.
Anyone who sends all mail marked as from[1] their
Eventually we'll probably bump ?all to a stricter ~all aka
SoftFail, which tells the receiving side that only mail coming from
the listed subnets is valid. Most ISPs will route 'other' mail to a
spam folder based on SoftFail.
I guess this means that people will no longer be able to successfully
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:19:21 -0700, Brad Jorsch
b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Jeff Green wrote:
The change should not be noticeable, but the most likely problem
would be legitimate @wikimedia.org mail being treated as spam. If
you hear of
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:19:21 -0700, Brad Jorsch
b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Jeff Green wrote:
The change should not be noticeable, but the most likely problem
would be legitimate @wikimedia.org
Correction . . . Wednesday 10/3! (sometimes I still think it's 2011)
jg
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Jeff Green wrote:
I'm planning to deploy Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for the wikimedia.org
domain on Weds October 5. SPF is a framework for validating outgoing mail,
which gives the receiving side
Hi there,
Asking for a task to volunteer, Sumana encouraged me to look at the
topic of community metrics. She pointed to
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Pentaho as a starting point.
After a first look at Pentaho and what some colleagues at the MeeGo
project did with it [1], I searched
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:47:20 -0700, Jeff Green jgr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:19:21 -0700, Brad Jorsch
b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:00:08AM -0700, Jeff Green wrote:
The change should
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:47:20 -0700, Jeff Green jgr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Daniel Friesen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:19:21 -0700, Brad Jorsch
b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:00:08AM
Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:40:13PM +, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
From the PostgreSQL side I see one problem with nesting - we are already
using savepoints to emulate MySQL's INSERT IGNORE and friends.\
It might be difficult to abuse that
RE:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mozilla-launches-beta-of-Persona-identity-system-1719634.html
(English)
RE:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Einheitliches-Web-Login-Mozilla-veroeffenlicht-Beta-von-Persona-1719623.html
(German)
RE: https://github.com/mozilla/browserid
I suggest,
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:33:44 -0700, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
RE:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mozilla-launches-beta-of-Persona-identity-system-1719634.html
(English)
RE:
BrowserID/Persona currently requires JavaScript to function. So it
really doesn't fit the kind of thing that we support as a standard way
to login.
I don't think it's a very good use of WMF's funding.
Is this the begin of a clash of civilisations between WMF and MediaWiki ?
Is this the begin of a clash of civilisations between WMF and MediaWiki ?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation
is the proper place to discuss that more, if you'd like to.
--
Mark Holmquist
Software Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation
mtrac...@member.fsf.org
Am 28.09.2012 23:52, schrieb Mark Holmquist:
Is this the begin of a clash of civilisations between WMF and
MediaWiki ?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation is
the proper place to discuss that more, if you'd like to.
No
What use does this have to WMF?
I think we make a lot of cool features that require JavaScript. And yes,
it's not universally usable, but it's helpful to spend time on those
things, because while they may not make Lynx [0] users happier, they'll
probably make things easier for, e.g., people
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
BrowserID/Persona currently requires JavaScript to function. So it
really doesn't fit the kind of thing that we support as a standard way
to login.
I don't think it's a very good use of WMF's funding.
Is this the begin of
Am 29.09.2012 00:03, schrieb Chad:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
BrowserID/Persona currently requires JavaScript to function. So it
really doesn't fit the kind of thing that we support as a standard way
to login.
I don't think it's a very good use of
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:57:51 -0700, Mark Holmquist
mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote:
What use does this have to WMF?
I think we make a lot of cool features that require JavaScript. And yes,
it's not universally usable, but it's helpful to spend time on those
things, because while they may
On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:11:20 -0700, Daniel Werner
daniel.wer...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 21:49:57 +0200
From: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com
To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] HTMLMultiSelectField as select
multiple=multiple/
Message-ID:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:27:20 -0700, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:
Fabian, you have found one of my old problems. There is a request on
Bugzilla to store bot edits in a table other than recent changes in order
to be able to sort them out of page histories. As the others wrote, this
is
a
I'm fine with features using JS. It's just important that the feature is
either an additive feature that is not necessary for use or it has a way
to work without JS.
In this case we're talking about login. If you disable JS... you can't
even log into your own user account. And disabling JS is
On Sep 28, 2012 8:40 PM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote:
I'm fine with features using JS. It's just important that the feature is
either an additive feature that is not necessary for use or it has a way
to work without JS.
In this case we're talking about login. If you disable
What Steven said.
On Sep 28, 2012 8:57 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 28, 2012 8:40 PM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote:
I'm fine with features using JS. It's just important that the feature is
either an additive feature that is not necessary for use
There is 3 different bot thingies you should know about, I'll briefly describe
them each:
== The bot user right:
This is the right that grants the user the ability to perform an edit with a
bot flag.
Facts:
* Not all users with this right are bots.
* The flag can be toggled on a per-edit basis.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:51 AM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:11:20 -0700, Daniel Werner
daniel.wer...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Alright, just submitted this for review to gerrit:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/8924/
[..]
Yes, multiselect is a
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