Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Chad wrote: > [snip] It's incredibly encouraging > especially > to our volunteer devs to see the fruits of their labors actually being used > :) Indeed - and Extension:ShortUrl which I wrote as a volunteer getting deployed made me immensely happy. Also made the fol

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 10/01/2013 04:43 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: I'm not saying we should make the software unusable for shared hosts, but we also shouldn't worry about supporting them for new features or maintaining often broken features (like file cache) just because they are useful on shared hosting. It makes the sof

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-03 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 10/03/2013 06:25 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 10/03/2013 04:41 PM, Aaron Schulz wrote: In any case, I would not want to see file cache removed until CDN support was evaluated, documented, and cleaned up, so people have an easy alternative in it's place. If file cache is a stand-in for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Chad
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Terry Chay wrote: > The requirement for extensions to be deployed has ALWAYS been that Features > Engineering sign off on a commitment to maintain the extension. I've > relaxed it > to be: "If another engineering department in collaboration with product is > willi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > If the volunteers need or want something, they make it. That's how > MediaWiki happened, how Wikipedia happened, how the very Foundation > for which you work happened, and while now there is infrastructure > in which paid professionals (ie you) h

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread MZMcBride
Terry Chay wrote: >[a very long e-mail about the MassMessage extension] Hi Terry. Have you ever used or tested the MassMessage MediaWiki extension? If so, when and where specifically? MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Isarra Yos
Out of curiosity, when did it become a requirement that Foundation management be involved throughout the process of all feature development, and that the WMF take over maintaining anything deployed to Wikimedia projects? Because that's just not feasible, and never has been. 1. If the volunteer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Terry Chay
On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Terry Chay wrote: > The above can occur independently or in parallel to the above. If Product > thinks it cool to commit Platform's constrained engineering resources to > deploying and supporting MassMessage Extension forever and use it to take > advantage of Echo w

Re: [Wikitech-l] importImages.php on symlinked windows wikis

2013-10-03 Thread James Montalvo
Thanks. Specifying $wgUploadDirectory did the trick. For my own edification can someone explain how "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/e/ed/My_File_Name.png" gets converted into "C:/path/to/wiki/images/e/ed/My_File_Name.png"? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Kevin Israel wrote: > On 10/03/201

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-03 Thread Tim Starling
On 04/10/13 06:41, Aaron Schulz wrote: > In any case, I would not want to see file cache removed until CDN support > was evaluated, documented, and cleaned up, so people have an easy > alternative in it's place. For example, if a bunch of confusing vcls are > needed to use varnish, then few will go

Re: [Wikitech-l] importImages.php on symlinked windows wikis

2013-10-03 Thread Kevin Israel
On 10/03/2013 07:08 PM, James Montalvo wrote: > I have several wikis all symlinked to a single prime wiki. Only the > "images", "cache", and "mw-config" directories and LocalSettings.php file > are unique for each wiki. > > Normally for maintenance scripts I just add "--conf > C:/path/to/LocalSett

[Wikitech-l] importImages.php on symlinked windows wikis

2013-10-03 Thread James Montalvo
I have several wikis all symlinked to a single prime wiki. Only the "images", "cache", and "mw-config" directories and LocalSettings.php file are unique for each wiki. Normally for maintenance scripts I just add "--conf C:/path/to/LocalSettings.php" to perform the maintenance script on a particula

[Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 Summary: Pronunciation Recording Tool

2013-10-03 Thread Rahul Maliakkal
Hello everyone, I was given the privilege of working with Wikimedia Foundation as a part of my GSoC internship and it definitely was a very well spent summer. I was working this summer on building a "Pronunciation Recording Tool" for WMF under the mentorship of Michael Dale and Matthew Flaschen.

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/03/2013 04:41 PM, Aaron Schulz wrote: > In any case, I would not want to see file cache removed until CDN support > was evaluated, documented, and cleaned up, so people have an easy > alternative in it's place. If file cache is a stand-in for CDN support, why not keep support for file cache'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Terry Chay
(reposting: held in moderation because of recipient list) I am posting this to wikitech-l, ee-l, and will cross-post this to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35306 because it's important to keep frank discussions in the open. When I use to loaded words like "back-dooring" etc, I b

Re: [Wikitech-l] [EE] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Howie Fung wrote: > My preference would be to integrate this into Echo, and to do so with a > proper evaluation of the Edwardsbot requirements (as Terry suggests). BTW, on that front, there has been interest from Quim and others in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Howie Fung
Dan and I can't commit Platform resources to maintaining this extension without a conversation with Robla first, or someone else from the Platform team that can speak for resourcing on their behalf. My preference would be to integrate this into Echo, and to do so with a proper evaluation of the Ed

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC office hour for Extension:BetaFeatures

2013-10-03 Thread Mark Holmquist
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:29:15PM -0700, Mark Holmquist wrote: > Due partly to the recent sparseness of traffic in #wikimedia-office, I've > scheduled an office hour [0] for the new BetaFeatures extension, which > the WMF is hoping to use for launching new features for beta testing. > > [0] https

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-03 Thread Aaron Schulz
I'm not dead set against it, but there are some problems I see with it: a) It's not well maintained nor documented as people don't really consider it when changing anything. A concerned volunteer could manage this probably. For example, dealing with HTTPs could be documented better and the code co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 35306: Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts)

2013-10-03 Thread Terry Chay
I am posting this to wikitech-l, ee-l, and will cross-post this to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35306 because it's important to keep frank discussions in the open. When I use to loaded words like "back-dooring" etc, I believe that no malice was intended and the discussions so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread legoktm
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > Unfortunately I don't see a way to get this information any API query. > > You can find someone's birthday, but I don't see a way to look for > entities that are people (P735 -- personal name) with birthdays (P569). > This feature of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Shrinivasan T
Thanks for the info friends. I want to get the date info from the "infobox". not from the sidebar, as I told in my initial mail. Now only I knew about the sidebar. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sidebar On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Bináris wrote: > 2013/10/3 John Vandenberg > > > > > An

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Bináris
2013/10/3 John Vandenberg > > An automated sidebar that includes any entities that have a significant > date on todays day would be useful for small projects that dont want to > spend lots of time building a hand-picked list. > A half-way solution between automated sidebars and hand-picked lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread John Vandenberg
On Oct 3, 2013 10:05 PM, "Mark A. Hershberger" wrote: > > On 10/03/2013 09:18 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > >> Wikidata + JS to the rescue!?? > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > I am very new to the wikidata. > > Me too. > > Unfortunately I don't see a way to get this information any API query. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are many ways of doing this.. However, when you want this to work for you, it takes a big effort to make this happen. Long term you may have to do the least by using Wikidata. Thanks, Gerard On 3 October 2013 15:02, Shrinivasan T wrote: > The side bar of any famous person in Ta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/03/2013 09:18 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: >> Wikidata + JS to the rescue!?? > > Thanks for the reply. > > I am very new to the wikidata. Me too. Unfortunately I don't see a way to get this information any API query. You can find someone's birthday, but I don't see a way to look for entities

[Wikitech-l] Summary of GSoC project: Refactoring of ProofreadPage extension

2013-10-03 Thread Aarti K. Dwivedi
Hello everyone, I was working on the project "Refactoring of ProofreadPage extension". here is a recapof what has been done in the project: 1. The handling of Index and Page pages have been separated. 2. The e

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Shrinivasan T
> Wikidata + JS to the rescue!?? Thanks for the reply. I am very new to the wikidata. Please explain little more on how to access the data in the sidebar to get details of the date using wikidata. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 10/03/2013 09:02 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > The side bar of any famous person in Tamil wikipedia has the birthday of > the person. > > Example: > https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/im6 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagesh > > Is there any way to notify this in the front/home page of the Tamil > wiki

[Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Shrinivasan T
The side bar of any famous person in Tamil wikipedia has the birthday of the person. Example: https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/im6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagesh Is there any way to notify this in the front/home page of the Tamil wikipedia ? Just like a "Today in history" etc. Thanks. -- Reg