Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Bump. On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 0:56, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Hi how do I get my skins and extensions to be merged automatically by jenkings like it does on centralauth projects are at https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fskins%2FMetrolook and https://git.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Florian Schmidt
Hi Thomas, what do you want to do? If you upload a new patchset to a change (or a new change), Jenkins will automatically merge this change with the master branch and runs tests against the resulting artifact :) That's what I know. Kind regards Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Hi what I mean is on centralauth jenking says merged this branch. I would like to do that too please. On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 11:53, Florian Schmidt wrote: Hi Thomas, what do you want to do? If you upload a new patchset to a change (or a new change), Jenkins will automatical

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Like this https://git.wikimedia.org/commit/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FCentralAuth/13e92723fc09dd5d9edbf95c2665f3687577ce02   On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 12:01, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Jenking does it as a commit of its own. On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 12:01, Thomas Mulhall

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Jenking does it as a commit of its own. On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 12:01, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Hi what I mean is on centralauth jenking says merged this branch. I would like to do that too please. On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 11:53, Florian Schmidt wrote: Hi Thom

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: AW: jenkings merging

2015-02-07 Thread Florian Schmidt
Damn, forwarding to wikitech-l, forget to click the answer all button :( Von: Florian Schmidt [mailto:florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de] Gesendet: Samstag, 7. Februar 2015 13:29 An: 'Thomas Mulhall' Betreff: AW: AW: [Wikitech-l] jenkings merging Ah, ok. Maybe a little bit background for t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Beta bounce handling completed with new beta-mx

2015-02-07 Thread Tony Thomas
From the production side: The extension got installed in the group0 wikis including mediawiki.org and is now generating and listening to VERPed bounces within group0. It is working perfect with the multiwiki mode enabled, and bounces returning back only to the API of test2.wikipedia.org. Hoo tells

[Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Hi should we upgrade GPL to version 3 since version 3 is more modern then version 2. Should it be updated in extensions, skins and MediaWiki. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitec

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Florian Schmidt
I think the question is: What advantages and disadvantages has a the new license version? Extensions and skins can use the license they want, if it is compatible with GPLv2 or newer :) Best, Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I am not a lawyer, but I am a little bit of a Free Software geek. Very briefly, GPL 3 adds restrictions on using software patents and DRM with the programs that use it. I'm not even entirely sure what these restrictions are. My very wild guess us that MediaWiki probably can go the GPL 3 way. Media

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Feb 7, 2015 3:57 PM, "Thomas Mulhall" wrote: > > Hi should we upgrade GPL to version 3 since version 3 is more modern then version 2. Should it be updated in extensions, skins and MediaWiki. > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
MediaWiki is already available under GPL 2 *or any later version*. Why would we want to disallow distribution under GPL 2? (Not that it's even possible. We could only state that new changes to MediaWiki code are only available on GPL 3+, we can't re-license existing code.) -- Bartosz Dzie

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I’ve been meaning to make this thread for a while. I also believe we should switch over to GPL 3. == Reasons to switch == First, to address the reason of why, there are a couple of reasons. Reference:  https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2014/SFLC-Guide_to_GPL_Compliance_2d_ed.html ===

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
It also has it here http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html on reasons why to upgrade version 3.   On Saturday, 7 February 2015, 22:21, Tyler Romeo wrote: I’ve been meaning to make this thread for a while. I also believe we should switch over to GPL 3. == Reasons to switch

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2015 at 22:20, Tyler Romeo wrote: > **However**, I’d like to take this opportunity and jump a step further. What > would everybody think of switching to the AGPLv3 instead? The advantage that > this provides, for those who don’t know, is a single additional restriction: > when th

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
Assuming they are using unmodified MediaWiki, yes a link to mediawiki.org would probably suffice. I am going to look more into it, but what we have right now (link in the footer and extension information on Special:Version) should fulfill compliance automatically for third parties. -- Tyler Romeo

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread David Gerard
Cool :-) What about extensions? Would they count as derivatives of MediaWiki for license purposes? (I suspect they would, given Automattic regards WordPress themes and plugins as derivatives and requires them to be GPL.) This would mean that, if MediaWiki went AGPL, in-house extensions would need

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread wctaiwan
David Gerard gmail.com> writes: > > What about extensions? Would they count as derivatives of MediaWiki > for license purposes? (I suspect they would, given Automattic regards > WordPress themes and plugins as derivatives and requires them to be > GPL.) > IANAL, but if there is some flexibility

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2015 at 23:39, wctaiwan wrote: > IANAL, but if there is some flexibility here, I would argue that extensions > should *not* be considered derivatives. Legally, because extensions do not > contain MediaWiki code (beyond using the programming API provided by core > classes); Ah, goo

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Hi I have uploaded the patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/189294/ here so which ever license that gets pick the commit can get updated for the new license so if we decide to change to AGPLv3 then the commit can be updated for that license or any other one. On Saturday, 7 February 20

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
One thing to point out is that: 1) Even right now, under the GPL, if extensions do qualify as “derivative works” or w/e, they do have to be GPL licensed. 2) Source code only has to be provided to users of the program. So presuming this is some private wiki with a secret extension, source code do

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Hi could i have some help to resize the image and also optimise it please at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vector-bullet-icon.svg i got it to go full size on ios. On Sunday, 8 February 2015, 0:00, Tyler Romeo wrote: One thing to point out is that: 1) Even right now, under

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Ricordisamoa
I like the GPLv3 and the aforementioned AGPL in general, but I doubt the code base would benefit from them at this point. Changing GPL-2.0+ to GPL-3.0+ is almost one-way, and I'm afraid some unhappy developers could even fork the project to keep it GPL-2.0+. Il 07/02/2015 20:57, Thomas Mulhall

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Thomas Mulhall
I think we should upgrade to GPL 3 because it I more modern only released sometime in 2007 where as GPL 2 was released in 1991 when the internet started to begin. The update to GPL 3 wont cause many issue. On Sunday, 8 February 2015, 1:17, Ricordisamoa wrote: I like the GPLv3 and t

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-07 Thread Pine W
Pinging WMF Legal to request their comments. Pine On Feb 7, 2015 5:19 PM, "Thomas Mulhall" wrote: > I think we should upgrade to GPL 3 because it I more modern only released > sometime in 2007 where as GPL 2 was released in 1991 when the internet > started to begin. The update to GPL 3 wont caus

[Wikitech-l] Extensions licensing

2015-02-07 Thread Ricordisamoa
Hi! As some of you may have noticed, I am currently promoting the clarification of several extensions' licenses. Specifically, every MediaWiki extension should register itself with one of the SPDX-compliant license codes and include a valid FOSS license as a file who