Re: [Wikitech-l] Post to a talk page without knowing whether it'sold-style or Flow

On 06/03/2015 08:07 AM, This, that and the other wrote: Thanks for thinking of tools like Twinkle! I wonder why this couldn't be implemented directly as an API action, though. We considered this (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59989) and decided against it. Since the internals are diffe

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

Sorry, guess I'm also calling #1 into question, since the old behavior should have already been the default or selectable by its own flag/parameter/URL-path-component/content-type/whatever. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Brian Gerstle wrote: > Just found the deprecation process document >

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

Just found the deprecation process document , specifically: >1. If not already present, a request parameter will be added to >specifically request the old behavior. >2. The change will be announced: > - A message w

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Brian Gerstle wrote: > IOW, why don't we continue w/ this feature flagging approach, which seems > like a decent way to version APIs and prevent breaking backwards > compatibility? > That's basically what this is, except it's named "rawcontinue" and applies as a b

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

I know about the phab ticket, but I'm glad you referenced it because I found this: (Anomie): I think feature flags to *select new behavior* and *a good > deprecation process* will take care of most things that actually need > improvement, to the point where we can do per-module versioning on an ad

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

On 06/04/2015 09:45 AM, Brian Gerstle wrote: > While it is (a little bit) nicer for new developers, they'll just burned > (along with all the other current API users) when you change the defaults. > What I'm trying to say is, changing the default seems like more work for > more people with very lit

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Brian Gerstle > wrote: > > > My question is: why does the default behavior need to change? Wouldn't > > continuing with the default behavior allow people to continue using the > > "rawcontinue" behavi

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

-announce Maybe we should have a reply-to for api-announce mailings that prevent accidental chatter? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Brian Gerstle wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) < > bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Brian Ger

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api-announce] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

Would it make sense to introduce per-user-agent API black list? This way we could prevent accidental usage of the broken tools. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > * 3.1.5 not 3.15, sorry for confusion :P > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > > Out of curiosity,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api-announce] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

* 3.1.5 not 3.15, sorry for confusion :P On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Out of curiosity, this may also break all versions of huggle that are > older than 3.15, which was released sometime around November 2014. > > I strongly recommend you to upgrade if you are using such an a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api-announce] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

Out of curiosity, this may also break all versions of huggle that are older than 3.15, which was released sometime around November 2014. I strongly recommend you to upgrade if you are using such an ancient version. I don't know what is going to happen, but it may break. Unless someone patches the