[Wikitech-l] 2015-06-17 Scrum of Scrums notes

2015-06-17 Thread Grace Gellerman
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-06-17 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overriding Jenkins versus make-work patches

2015-06-17 Thread Legoktm
On 06/17/2015 09:53 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: 1. Merge the core change over Jenkins's objections, then the Flow change can be merged as normal. But overriding Jenkins sucks. Force-merging in a jenkins/zuul managed repository should be avoided as much as possible, since it will cause

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overriding Jenkins versus make-work patches

2015-06-17 Thread S Page
#1 sounds right, Jenkins serves us, not vice versa. The core change's commit message should reference the two required extension changes. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-17 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Marco mai...@live.de wrote: On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:29:08 +0700, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more than

[Wikitech-l] Implementing features for the sake of implementing features

2015-06-17 Thread Eran Rosenthal
Sometimes programmers waste their time for implementing non-useful/non-important features, but sometimes such features aren't just not useful, but harmful.[1; you are more than welcome to convince me otherwise] Both developers, designers and project managers should always ask themselves why do we

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: The API currently emits a warning if a query continuation mode isnt selected. I guess on July 1 the API could emit an error, and not return any query data. Then the data isnt going to cause weird behaviour - it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overriding Jenkins versus make-work patches

2015-06-17 Thread Bryan Davis
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: We have an (informal?) policy that deprecation warnings shouldn't be raised in WMF production. Thus if a core patch is going to add deprecation warnings we have to make sure that all extensions deployed on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-17 Thread Marco
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:29:08 +0700, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I've compiled a list of bots that have hit the deprecation warning more than 1 times over the course of the week May 23–29. If you are

[Wikitech-l] (off) Baidu Baike current dump

2015-06-17 Thread Farkas, Illes
Hello, Does anyone know a method for downloading the current dump of Baidu Baike? Suggestions for alternative mailing lists would be also great. Thanks, Illes http://goo.gl/trcz4 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week

2015-06-17 Thread Tim Starling
In the next RFC meeting, we will discuss the following RFC: * Request timeouts and retries https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97204 * Re-evaluate varnish-level request-restart behavior on 5xx https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97206 The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on

[Wikitech-l] Overriding Jenkins versus make-work patches

2015-06-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
We have an (informal?) policy that deprecation warnings shouldn't be raised in WMF production. Thus if a core patch is going to add deprecation warnings we have to make sure that all extensions deployed on the cluster are updated to not trigger the warning. We can accomplish this by carefully

Re: [Wikitech-l] (off) Baidu Baike current dump

2015-06-17 Thread Liangent
I don't think there is and will be one, besides crawling web pages, considering Baidu's past activities. Note that contents on Baidu Baike are usually not free and in an unknown / messy copyright status. -Liangent On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Farkas, Illes f...@elte.hu wrote: Hello, Does