Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:22 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 10 February 2015 at 23:19, Bryan Tong Minh > wrote: > > > In fact I would prefer to go to a less restrictive license, but that is > > probably not worth the fight. > > > And is also infeasible. For a web se

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-10 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon Feb 09 2015 at 21:25:16 Tyler Romeo wrote: [snip] > It's your choice to not participate in any project for any reason, but try > to understand that some people (such as myself) much prefer to work on > software that's truly free, rather than virally free. > I hope you don’t seriously think

Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub-based triangular workflow

2013-09-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, rupert THURNER > wrote: > > > Am 15.09.2013 17:13 schrieb "Merlijn van Deen" : > > ... > > > As you may be aware, the git-review based developer experience on > Windows > > > is less than perfect - especially

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: DataStore

2013-09-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Max Semenik wrote: > Hi, I'd like to present a new RFC for your consideration. You can find it > at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/DataStore > Briefly, it proposes a new key-value storage for MediaWiki intended to get > rid of some small tables

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC "How/whether MediaWiki could use ZendOptimizuerPlus" -- ZendOptimizerPlus, opcode cache, PHP 5.4, APC, memcache ???

2013-03-21 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Thomas Gries wrote: > > Do I have to look for the MediaWiki source module/memcache API? Where ? > > It's called BagOStuff. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Gerrit] API PageSet allows generator for non-query modules - change (mediawiki/core[master])

2013-02-06 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > > > Currently our coding conventions have major prohibitions on the use of > isset() ... > > Oh, would not think so if you did a grep on core. > > There are valid uses for isset, and as far as I am aware, those are not prohibited and are acti

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > This is a ridiculous conversation and I can't believe it now spans +20 > messages. > Apparently you don't care, but other people do care. Please do not disregard other people's opinions because you believe yours is correct. To keep it in the st

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to contribute to sysadmin / devops

2013-01-08 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Sysadmin_hubseems > to be the closest landing page for a sysadmin volunteer, but that > page needs love and there is little to be found there for wannabe > contributors

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unit tests scream for attention

2012-12-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, bawolff wrote: > > When I used to run unit tests, there were quite regularly issues where > the unit tests assumed you had the default configuration, where they > really should not assume such a thing. (That was of course a while > ago, so things may have changed)

Re: [Wikitech-l] slight change to the review workflow in Gerrit

2012-12-08 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: > >> Why not just add (more) slaves? Computing power is much > >> cheaper than developer time. > > > >I absolutely agree. > > I'm also in agreement on this one. Having tests run after code review > negates > the point of having tests run in

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.20rc2 is about 50 times slower (on openSUSE)

2012-10-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Platonides wrote: > Maybe Johannes has XCache installed and working, but it doesn't have > enough space to store the message cache, so it is always a miss, and his > threads are constantly racing to rebuild it. > Do we have a known minimum cache size? If so, we

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.20rc2 is about 50 times slower (on openSUSE)

2012-10-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Johannes Weberhofer < jweberho...@weberhofer.at> wrote: > Am 25.10.2012 18:14, schrieb OQ: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Johannes Weberhofer >> wrote: >> >>> Stripped of. You can find it here: http://www.weberhofer.at/** >>> mediawiki.log

Re: [Wikitech-l] Call to eliminate sajax

2012-10-03 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > core/skins/common/upload.js > 99: if ( !ajaxUploadDestCheck || !sajax_init_object() ) return; > 124:if ( !ajaxUploadDestCheck || !sajax_init_object() ) return; > 133:if ( !ajaxUploadDestCheck || !sajax_init

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML wikipedia dumps: Could you please provide them, or make public the code for interpreting templates?

2012-09-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Roberto Flores wrote: > Could you please provide HTML dumps (I mean, with the templates > pre-processed into HTML, everything else the same as now) every 3 or 4 > months? > How a template is rendered into HTML depends very much on the context (i.e. page title, last

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua deployed to www.mediawiki.org

2012-08-23 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: >>I think Yury has a point. Now would be a good time to maybe discuss >>exactly what's going on. As exciting a feature it may be, we cannot just >>"deploy next week" and then have "the schedule for deployment not yet >>decided". >> >>Stuff lik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating individual parameter combinations

2012-06-03 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Harry Burt wrote: > Hey all, > > As per the commentary on bug #32987, it might be desirable to change the > constructor for ThumbnailImage from: > > $foo = new ThumbnailImage( $file, $url, $width, $height, $path, $page ); > > to: > > $foo = new ThumbnailImage( $fi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Chad wrote: > > >    2) we need to look at mediawiki being used as GPL 3.0 even though it > >    is not explicitely licensed that way. > > > > I'm not 100% sure what's being asked here? Is this a request to relicense > MediaWiki under GPLv3 instead of v2? Or is thi

Re: [Wikitech-l] User ID 0 on simple

2012-05-04 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
A user will have id 0, but an associated user name, when a page is imported via Special:Import, and if said user does not exist locally. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making only some of the pages editable by all

2012-04-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 18 April 2012 12:42, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > >> This is possible, but only per namespace with $wgNamespaceProtection >> [1]. So, if you move all WikiMeetups pages to the WikiMeetups: >> namespace, then it i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making only some of the pages editable by all

2012-04-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hi, On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:26 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > While having that as a global setting, can we have some pages editable by > all ( even IP users) via some settings. > > A practical use for us would we , all pages under > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiMeetups/ > This is possible,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC] project proposal

2012-04-04 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Trinh Hoang Nguyen wrote: > Hi there, > > > > Could you please have a look at my project proposal for Google Summer of > Code > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Trinhtomsk/GSoC_2012_application > > It would be awesome to have a proper Flickr upload system. For

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git, Gerrit and the coming migration

2012-03-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Niklas Laxström wrote: > > Rather than solving our review problem, I think GiGeGa might even make > it worse by slowing the type development work mentioned above. > > But that was the point right, to introduce this whole system? By using a gated-trunk model, the de

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki security and maintenance release 1.18.1

2012-01-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Sam Reed wrote: > Full release notes: > http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_18_1/phase3/RELEASE-NOT > ES > This link is broken; should be suffixed -1.18 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Picture rotation: what on earth?

2011-12-10 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Well, it looks like automatic image rotation is not as good an idea as Brion and I originally thought. Do people think we should remove the auto-rotation (i.e. set $wgEnableAutoRotation = false) until we have something in MediaWiki to rotate images? Bryan _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla vandalism

2011-11-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > > Στις 24-11-2011, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 21:30 +0100, ο/η Daniel Zahn έγραψε: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > > So, here's the solution for now, and probably for a while: > > > > > > 1.  New account creation has be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding Convention: Method chaining

2011-11-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > > Hey, > > > Introducing a pattern like this in a code base this large is therefore > problematic. > > I'm tempted to agree with this. Doing > >  $this->getOutput() > ->setPageTitle( wfMsg( 'abusefilter-examine' ) ) >  ->addWikiMsg( 'abusef

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upcoming VipsScaler deployment

2011-11-02 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Step 1: Deploy VipsScaler extension, but only use it for PNGs over > 12.5MP and/or TIFFs (which currently generate errors).  Let this sit > in production a while, fixing any bugs we find with this > configuration. I should note that PagedTiff

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki unit testing and non-MySQL databases

2011-10-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Platonides wrote: > 5) Reading the git instructions make me feel sick Git instructions make people feel sick, well known fact. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2011-10-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > Ben Loblaugh (blobaugh): FileRepo refactoring, Azure support > Welcome Ben! It's great to have somebody to look over FileRepo. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://list

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious interwiki.py issues on MW 1.18 wikis

2011-09-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > >> Out of curiosity... If the new revisions of one of these badly edited >> pages are deleted, leaving the top revision as the one just before the >> bad iw bot edit, does a rerun of t

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious interwiki.py issues on MW 1.18 wikis

2011-09-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: >> >>> Out of curiosity... If the new revisions of one of these badly edited >>> pages are deleted, leaving the top revision as t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Counting revisions in 20110901

2011-09-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:09 PM, melvin_mm wrote: > > Are some revisions, e.g. minor edits not included in the dump? > Deleted revisions? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Updates for EXIF rotated photos in trunk & 1.18

2011-09-21 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > I've applied these fixes to trunk, REL1_18, and 1.18wmf1 -- phpunit test > cases have been updated, but it's still conceivable something could be wrong > so please do test. :) > Great work Brion! Bryan

Re: [Wikitech-l] i18n (internationalization) Triage notes

2011-09-01 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > Chad writes: > >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Mark A. Hershberger >> wrote: >>> Thanks to all who participated in this week's triage.  Next Wednesday: >>> Download Wizard. >>> >> >> What's the download wizard? > > It is NeilK's se

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please fix your FIXMEs

2011-08-31 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On 31/08/11 08:18, Thomas Gries wrote: >> Am 31.08.2011 08:14, schrieb Nikola Smolenski: >>> >>> I asked Mark already, but he hasn't answered (or at least I haven't >>> noticed his answer), so I guess it is appropriate to ask the questions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reclaiming a lost account on a private wiki: impossible

2011-08-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Svip wrote: > http://wiki.dikurevy.dk/Speciel:PasswordReset?uselang=en > > Seriously? > You should put Special:PasswordReset in $wgWhiteListSomething. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org h

Re: [Wikitech-l] On refactorings and huge changes

2011-07-27 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hey, On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Chad wrote: > All, > > While spending the past few days/weeks in CodeReview, it has become > abundantly clear to me that we absolutely must get away from this idea > of doing huge refactorings in our working copies and landing them in trunk > without any war

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing cc lists & default assignees, reducing useless bugmail

2011-07-20 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > RobLa suggested that, in most cases, the Bugzilla default assignee for a > MediaWiki component or extension should be no one (that is, the wikibugs > "no one in particular" user).  Today Mark made that change, for > MediaWiki component

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review training meeting in San Francisco

2011-07-13 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Great news Rob! I'm really glad that the WMF is putting more resources into this! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Minor API change, ApiUpload

2011-07-13 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Ian Baker wrote: > Temporarily stashed files now have their metadata stored in the database > instead of the session.  This allows for some future feature expansion with > regard to the image review and categorization process, and works around a > memcached race c

Re: [Wikitech-l] testing mobile browsers?

2011-07-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > Hello, > > Our javascript tests are being run under TestSwarm [1] and we currently > cover up most desktop browsers (thanks brion). > Firefox 5 is missing. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Postmortem for the MediaWiki 1.17 release

2011-07-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Are we talking about WMF deployments or tarballs here? Speaking as a >> tarball user, 2 releases a year, maybe 3, is *just fine*. >> > I think 3 releases per year is fine. However, I thi

Re: [Wikitech-l] How long does it take for the commons thumbnails to update?

2011-07-04 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hi, On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Strainu wrote: > Hi, > > How long does it take for the commons thumbnails to update after a new > version has been loaded? > Immediately. If they do not, they are likely to be affected by Bryan

[Wikitech-l] RL dynamic parameters

2011-06-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hello, How do I pass parameters dynamically to an RL module? I need to pass a FileRepo object to the RL module when I call $wgOut->addModuleStyle(). Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/

[Wikitech-l] Domain name for cruisecontrol

2011-06-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Can we have a proper domain name for cruisecontrol? Something like testing.mediawiki.org. That is much easier to remember than ci.usability.tesla.wikimedia.org or whatever. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unit testing now working - break it and be reverted

2011-06-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Chad wrote: > Painstakingly, all of the unit tests are now passing on cruise control > (Sqlite) > and my local install (Sqlite & Mysql). This is as of r90150 [0]. Thank you > immensely to Brion for finally tracking down and eliminating that pesky > BlockTest bug.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unit testing now working - break it and be reverted

2011-06-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Max Semenik wrote: > On 17.06.2011, 1:08 Bryan wrote: > >> Can somebody on Windows/SQLite try running the tests? I'm consistently >> getting two failures in XmlTest, which Chad apparently is not getting: > > > Yes, same thing for me. Hoowever. the difs show no real

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unit testing now working - break it and be reverted

2011-06-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Can somebody on Windows/SQLite try running the tests? I'm consistently getting two failures in XmlTest, which Chad apparently is not getting: 1) XmlSelectTest::testSetDefault Failed asserting that two strings are equal. --- Expected +++ Actual @@ @@ foo1 bar1 foo2 D:\Bryan\workspace\phase3\te

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getlets: Transcluding a file (for example, a README file on SVN) on a page (for example: MediaWiki:Extension) page

2011-05-21 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Platonides wrote: >> Purpose: >> To avoid duplication of content, especially for documentation of extensions, >> I wish to transclude a README file from our SVN on a Mediawiki extension >> page or subpage such as http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID . >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2011-05-16 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM, reporter wrote: > MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for May 09, 2011 - May 16, 2011 > A productive weekend! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki Development IDE

2011-05-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Tod wrote: > Is there an IDE that the MW developer community has settled on and can > recommend? > Sam has a license for phpStorm, iirc, available for all MediaWiki developers. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] AJAX call avoiding CSS error

2011-05-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Tod wrote: > I'd like to make a call to a service on another server and present the > results in a mediawiki page.  Does the current release of MW (1.16.5 I > think) have a built in proxy to support this ? > No. Writing one should be trivial, but currently I don't b

Re: [Wikitech-l] integration of MediaWiki and version control system as backend?

2011-05-06 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > MediaWiki assumes an SQL database backend, and breaking that > assumption would require rewriting MediaWiki.  However, certain things > are abstracted and can be stored in different ways.  Uploaded files > are one example. canshould _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Licensing (Was: WYSIWYG and parser plans)

2011-05-06 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Can we stop discussing this issue? I believe that most MediaWiki developers are in fact not interested in changing the status quo with regards to licensing, so there is no point in discussing it. Bryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Media embedding: oEmbed feedback?

2011-04-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > currently there's no exposed > license metadata (highly desired for Wikimedia's usage, obviously) > Krinkle and me have been working on that a while ago, but after discussion on this list it appeared that we were following a wrong track. We'l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linker, more on Skins, OutputPage, and context code patterns changes

2011-04-18 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: > * Chad [Mon, 18 Apr 2011 01:07:09 -0400]: >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov >> wrote: >> > Also, it's >> > interesting why an ancestor of DatabaseBase is not a member of >> MediaWiki >> > object, too. >> >> What if you n

[Wikitech-l] Status of 1.17 & 1.18

2011-04-14 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hi all, I'm wondering what the status for 1.17 is. How far are we from RC? Is there any more review left? Related to this, as our review burden for 1.17 lessens, we should start to think about 1.18: re-recruit reviewers again, start thinking about when to branch 1.18, etc. Are there any plans re

Re: [Wikitech-l] ShortURL for Non Latin Mediawiki sites

2011-04-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Krinkle wrote: > Op 12 apr 2011, om 21:35 heeft Bryan Tong Minh het volgende geschreven: > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Bryan Tong Minh >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Krinkle >>> wrote: >>>>

Re: [Wikitech-l] ShortURL for Non Latin Mediawiki sites

2011-04-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Krinkle wrote: >> * http://ta.wikipedia.org/?curid=2810 (already works) >> * http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/262 (proposal; // >> base_convert ( 2810, 10, 36 ); ) >&g

Re: [Wikitech-l] ShortURL for Non Latin Mediawiki sites

2011-04-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Krinkle wrote: > * http://ta.wikipedia.org/?curid=2810 (already works) > * http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/262 (proposal; // > base_convert ( 2810, 10, 36 ); ) > I think "permalink" is the common used term for this kind of url. So Special:Permalink/26

Re: [Wikitech-l] Actions and Special Pages

2011-04-05 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > Personally, I like tacking on ?action=edit and especially purge. > Prefixing Special:Edit/ doesn't sound nice to me. > I know I fixed the issues with things like Special:Movepage not sharing > the same UI tabs as the rest of the actions. > I'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Weekend Sprint wrap-up, RC1 by this Friday

2011-03-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > Following the weekend sprint, a little blocker pruning, and consulting > with Robla and Chad, I'm pleased to announce that Chad will be pushing > the first 1.17 Release Candidate by this Friday. > Great work, Mark and everybody else wh

Re: [Wikitech-l] API Sandbox

2011-03-28 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, SALIL P A wrote: > > to make the api sandbox really useful, it ideally should have automatic php > code generation too ( i don't know if it is overambitious ). for example for > login and logout, user can just give his userid and password and the code he > would wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code Review tools

2011-03-27 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Platonides wrote: > Daniel Friesen wrote: >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/80248 >> Comment gives a Tesla link saying something broke. However the Tesla >> link does not identify that commit as the guaranteed commit that >> actually broke cod

Re: [Wikitech-l] code review criticism (Re: Converting to Git?)

2011-03-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Happy-melon wrote: > *We* write MediaWiki, and we could in principle do > it in notepad or pico if we wanted (some of us probably do :-D). I don't think anybody writes in notepad, as notepad inserts UTF byte order marks at the beginning of a text file ;) For the r

Re: [Wikitech-l] Converting to Git?

2011-03-25 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > > I don't think moving to git will make code review very much easier in > the short term.  It would probably disrupt code review considerably, > in fact, because people would have to get used to the new system.  So > I definitely think code re

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?

2011-03-24 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Joseph Roberts wrote: > Thanks, would it be preferable to add HTML5 to that or make another > extension purely for using /? > OggHandler already implements . It tries to select an appropriate player (, Cortado or VLC) depending on the user's browser.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?

2011-03-24 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Roberts wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been scanning the source and I can't find where the players are kept. > Can anyone add any insight on this?  Is it done as a hook or direct code? Extension:OggHandler. The video player is Cortado, which is bundled with Ogg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Converting to Git?

2011-03-23 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 23/03/11 12:05, Rob Lanphier wrote: >> If our code review system was working smoothly, I wouldn't mind >> delaying this.  However, it's pretty clear that code reviews aren't >> keeping pace (be sure to look at revisions marked "new" in trun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review — let us know you're testing code

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Bleher wrote: > (Small wish: it would be very helpful if every commit message referencing a > bug would also include the one-line summary of the bug; that makes it much > easier to quickly determine what the bug is about and if a bug is relevant > for a spec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Patch catch-up: bug 23817 fixes committed

2011-02-14 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > To start out with catching up on patch review, I took a look over and > applied the patches on bug 23817, fixing wfObjectToArray() and FormatJson > for a case that broke certain parts of ForeignAPIRepo when PHP's native JSON > module wasn't p

Re: [Wikitech-l] How users without programming skills can help

2011-02-14 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Diederik van Liere wrote: > So maybe we can paste these 5 steps (or something similar) in the initial > form used to file a bugreport. > > This would increase the quality of bugreports and make it easier for bug > triaging. > Increase the quality perhaps, but also

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making code review happen in 1.18

2011-02-13 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hi Mark, It is good to see people thinking about 1.18 already! On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > The problem with our current VCS is the sort of work-flow that has > developed around it. > > But we can solve the work-flow problem without introducing an entirely >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmaps and getting and keeping devs

2011-02-12 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Leo wrote: > *Quote: "Respond to contributions immediately." > This is what I think bugs me the most. There are heaps of bugs which have had > patches attached for month or years. For newcomers, who maybe spent a lot of > time on these, it's just rude to neither

Re: [Wikitech-l] File licensing information support

2011-01-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hi, There have been a lot of mails since I last had the the time to reply, so I'll reply to some points in a single mail. On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Platonides wrote: > An internally handled parser function doesn't conflict with showing it > as a textbox. > > We could for instance store i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sentence-level editing / InlineEditor extension update

2011-01-27 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Jan Paul Posma wrote: > >> >> That's precisely the kind of things you want to find out from a >> usability study. That's why I reported it, not only to show the world >> how dumb I am :) >> My eyes moved from "Awesome, you are editing Wikipedia!" to "Can you >> br

Re: [Wikitech-l] File licensing information support

2011-01-22 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
nderstand what a certain input really means. {{#fileauthor:[[User:Bryan]]}} means nothing to MediaWiki or re-users, but "Author: Bryan___ [checkbox] This is a Commons username" can be parsed by MediaWiki to mean something. It also allows us to mass change for example the author. If I want to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

2011-01-21 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 21/01/11 12:46, Trevor Parscal wrote: >> Joke or not, it's in there, and it's a violation of the GPL. > > Did you try emailing the author and asking for a dual license? > I believe that people from Redhat have already tried that and failed.

[Wikitech-l] File licensing information support

2011-01-20 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
Hello, As you may have noticed, Roan, Krinkle and me have started to more tightly integrate image licensing within MediaWiki. Our aim is to create a system where it should be easy to obtain the basic copyright information of an image in a machine readable format, as well as querying images with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-19 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > > (here I am again, throwing tech solutions at social problems...) > The non-technical solution would be for wikitech-l/#wikimedia-tech regulars to start poking people at IRC when error reports come in on the mailing list. The nice thing ab

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-17 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, > probably > in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a > strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There will be little in terms of > pres

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Anthony wrote: > How would you define a particular sentence, paragraph or section of an > article?  The difficulty of the solution lies in answering that > question. > Difficult, but doable. Jan-Paul's sentence-level editing tool is able to make the distinction. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Matching main namespace articles with associated talk page

2011-01-08 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:32 PM, John wrote: > its just a matter of matching page titles, if there is a page in namespace 0 > and a page in namespace (article and article talk) with the same title they > go together. its fairly simple > To expand John's comment, the talk page is always the page wit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2011/1/7 Bryan Tong Minh : >> Also FR seems to be unconditionally enabled, also on wikis that do not >> have the tables present. >> > Which wikis would those be? Rob says he ran update.php so all the > tab

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2011/1/7 Rob Lanphier : >> I disabled >> LabeledSectionTransclusion because of an error in >> LabeledSectionTransclusion::setup >> > Stupid mistake on my part, Sam fixed it in r79810. I merged it to > 1.17, updated prototype and re-enabled LST.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cleanup of too small categories

2011-01-05 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > What tools are there to count the number of categories, > sort them by the number of members (subcategories and > articles), and to determine which branches of the > category tree should be pruned? > With the new category table in 1.16 it shou

Re: [Wikitech-l] How would you disrupt Wikipedia?

2010-12-30 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: > Question: assuming that our primary interest is creating software for > Wikipedia and similar WMF projects, do we actually get anything from the > Windows PC intranet users that offsets the cost of keeping MediaWiki > friendly to both en

Re: [Wikitech-l] How would you disrupt Wikipedia?

2010-12-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Maciej Jaros wrote: > If one would have a budget of gazillions of dollars then it would be > quite easy ;-). The problem is - what would be the point of investing > such money if you wouldn't get it back from this investment? > While money can fix a lot of things,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternative to opendir() functions?

2010-12-20 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: >> > The optimal way to use a framework is to integrate it through the whole > code base. For example, special pages, actions may use Symphony routing. > I do agree that GlobalFunctions are somewhat outdated (although the > calls are short an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternative to opendir() functions?

2010-12-20 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Soxred93 wrote: > > The usage is simple: > sfFinder::type('file')->name('*.php')->in('/path/to/dir'); //list of PHP > files in directory and all subdirectories > sfFinder::type('file')->name('*.php')->in('/path/to/dir')->recurse(0); //list > of PHP files in that

Re: [Wikitech-l] dataset1, xml dumps

2010-12-15 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > > We certainly want people to host it as well.  It's not a matter of > bandwidth but of protection: if someone can't get to our copy for > whatever reason, another copy is accessible. > Is there a copy in Amsterdam? Seems like that would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] WebRequest changes title parameter

2010-12-09 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > This appears to go wrong only on wikis rewriting urls. > You are rewriting into the root of the domain. This is guaranteed to go wrong and therefore an unsupported rewrite mode for MediaWiki. Bryan _

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branched

2010-12-08 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > When you commit or find a revision post-r77974 that you feel should be > in 1.17 (bugfixes, typically, no new features), tag it with "1.17" in > CodeReview. > Also note that if you MFT a 1.18 revision to 1.16wmf4, you should also tag it as 1.1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making usability part of the development process

2010-12-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote: > Oh please no! > > - Trevor > > On 12/7/10 7:26 AM, Platonides wrote: >> Daniel Friesen wrote: >>> PHP ->  XSL doesn't quite feel like much of an improvement in terms of >>> cutting down on the verbose redundant code boilerplate required to >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making usability part of the development process

2010-12-07 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Platonides wrote: > Daniel Friesen wrote: >> PHP -> XSL doesn't quite feel like much of an improvement in terms of >> cutting down on the verbose redundant code boilerplate required to >> insert something. >> ie: doesn't look much better than > $this->text("title")

Re: [Wikitech-l] Draft plan for 1.17 branch next week (Code review and making it to 1.17)

2010-12-05 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/12/4 Robert Leverington : >> It is unclear to me whether the plan is to branch from the latest >> reviewed code or trunk HEAD > This was kind of overlooked by everyone in that discussion :( > The latest fully reviewed code is like Februar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review and making it to 1.17

2010-12-03 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/12/3 Rob Lanphier : >> There's some release planning issues that we have to sort out: >> 1. When will we branch 1.17? > Soon, IMO. Branching sooner means stabilizing sooner means releasing > and deploying sooner. I don't think there's an

Re: [Wikitech-l] null revisions

2010-12-02 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: > So probably the core patch is > the only efficient way to solve my problem? > You can always supply a database patch with your extension to add indices you need to core tables. Bryan ___ Wikitec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-11-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Platonides wrote: > Bryan Tong Minh wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: >>> "An alternative [to rejecting all ZIP files] would be to parse the >>> entire zip directory and to reject any archives that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-11-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > "An alternative [to rejecting all ZIP files] would be to parse the > entire zip directory and to reject any archives that contain a file > with a .class extension. I can’t vouch for this method. **If you did > this, the zip library you used wo

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