Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
be an HTTP/HTTPS switch in the Preferences page. We have one at the registration/log-in page, but I'd like MediaWiki to remember that I want to use HTTPS only. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52283 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47089 *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52354 *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
when replying. I was referring to the discussion about how TLS doesn't entirely solve the problem and that we should start adding random packets in order to prevent traffic analysis. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is assert() allowed?

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The php.ini option assert.bail is 0 by default. So? It's the same way in Java. You have to turn on assertions. It's kind of natural to assume that if assertions are off the won't cause fatal errors. *-- * *Tyler Romeo

Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
Also, on a side note, Facebook *just* made HTTPS the default: https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/secure-browsing-by-default/10151590414803920 *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is assert() allowed?

2013-07-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
on the program, but generally are logically unexpected. You use assertions for things that will only break during development. It's not like the designers of C and Java just blindly put in a way to disable assertions but not exceptions. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki-Vagrant: new features

2013-07-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
Ori I have a quick question. Would there be any way to have a quick method of switching PHP versions, specifically for testing purposes? Like vagrant enable-role php5.4 or maybe it'd have it's own command. That way it's easy to test compatibility with other versions. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is assert() allowed?

2013-07-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
an idea. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is assert() allowed?

2013-07-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
not have any performance overhead once they're turned off for production servers, so that won't be an issue either. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Tim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is assert() allowed?

2013-07-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
a valid usage, but it should be done in ways where they won't be hit. In other words, they should not be used for data validation; they should be used in cases where *the program expects the data to already be valid*. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
would be a better analogy. :P *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
this isn't supported, the only option we have is to just disable TLS 1.1 entirely. The ops team can correct me if this is at all incorrect. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:51

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
. See: http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpSslModule#ssl_prefer_server_ciphers. Shows how much I know. Didn't realize we use nginx for our TLS servers. Ignore what I said. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
Yeah, I think MediaWiki has much more important security issues to worry about than their TLS configurations. :P *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
there are so many other security issues to choose from that this one is almost irrelevant. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] no TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
issues affecting us). Password hashing, CSRF for anonymous users, the fact that we don't require TLS for logins... They all have bugs filed I believe. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving MediaWiki's README (bug 50552)

2013-07-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
Awesome! I went bold and made some changes. It already looks significantly better than our current README. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:10 AM, MZMcBride z

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tools] Bot dispatcher

2013-07-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
for this application? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: And if someone was wondering why subscribing to changes is better than

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tools] Bot dispatcher

2013-07-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
, if the service would support being spanned across a server pool, how the service would be concurrent, etc. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] python vs php

2013-07-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
functions). Aside from that, Python also supports named function parameters (as well as named variadic function parameters) and decorators. Combining all of the above, I've found Python to be a significantly more useful language for creating applications that are sanely designed. *-- * *Tyler Romeo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
way to approach this. If we're supposed to be a community, why wouldn't the first option be to ask the community before making such changes? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
this was a predictable reaction)? And if so, why was this done silently? It wasn't decided. There was a bug with the user preference where the label on the preference was incorrect. In order to fix this, the option was disabled. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
don't imagine community fallout would have been taken into account since it was an engineering decision and not a product decision. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
to make. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
should VE be doing this if you're not entering the editor. HotCat (and the future extension based on it) can handle categories just fine. The VE team should focus on fixing its current issues before attempting to introduce new features. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class

Re: [Wikitech-l] !ask

2013-07-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
Yeah I agree. Whenever I see it used I cringe a little bit thinking about how the other person is reading it. --Tyler Romeo On Jul 23, 2013 5:51 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Can we deprecate usage of '!ask' on IRC? ori-l: !ask wm-bot: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
no longer needed, then it will be removed. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
I wasn't aware the preference was hidden. Interesting. This should definitely be merged and deployed. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:47 AM, bawolff bawolff

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
hackish techniques as mentioned above, where you require the MW core as a library (even though it isn't one). That's the main reason I'd consider not using composer. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
And now it's REOPENED. I'd like some justification rather than the VE team saying it's our product, so we decide. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bartosz

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
that a wiki can install, but at the same time it can be a dependency for other extensions. That's where it gets tricky... *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
option back. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bartosz DziewoƄski matma

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the best way to identify actually executed MediaWiki extensions?

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
What do you mean by actually executed? Because that kind of various by extension. A special page extension is executed when its special page is viewed by a user. A parser hook extension is executed when a user saves a page with that parser function in it. Etc. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
overriding the community decision just to stop it? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: * What was the rationale for using ?veaction=edit rather than ?action=edit for VisualEditor? This. Who the hell thought this was a good idea. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
the messages were confusing. So rather than fixing the interface messages, they just hid the preference instead. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
. If that were true, than the MW core would be split across fifty different repositories. (If Makefiles can compile different parts of a product independently, then so can we.) *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
as stop shoving this propaganda down the community's throat as if VE is the second coming. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
throwing out other preferences while we're here. In the end, unless there is some demonstrative reason for disabling this preference (especially the way it is now, using $wgHiddenPrefs, which is not what that variable was meant to be used for), the pros outweight the cons. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git config trick.

2013-07-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
This is one of the most useful things I've ever learned. Thanks! *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: In ~/.gitconfig, add

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
Man, if only PHP had some sort of dependency management system. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, What

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
. in one repository, and then have the entry points in another). That way the MW core itself becomes a library, which is how Symfony does it. Then people just make a project from the entry point project, and then they can use composer require to add more extensions. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute

[Wikitech-l] Authnz System RFC

2013-07-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
, and other interfaces. It also deprecates and supersedes the AuthPlugin system, among other systems. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
). That way at least the category removal happens in PHP and not in JavaScript. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =) That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
to make an API module for adding/removing categories (it won't be a redesign, it just moves the parsing and removing logic to PHP), and then from there use JavaScript to call that. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects (including Mobile) have had demand for it. Will do. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
a See also section that is usually unrelated to the disambiguated topic, but still may be clicked often. Better yet, all disambiguation pages have the disambiguation template on them, and in that template are links and image links you can click on. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
problem I mentioned, but also what if the person just browses to another page by URL? Then the server thinks the user got there from the disambiguation page. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
, perhaps hundreds of observations. I strongly doubt that the correct behavior will be prevalent enough to warrant using such an automatic system over just manually fixing disambiguation links, which can be done quite easily using automatic wiki browsers and the like. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
with a nice extension. But, as said, if VE already has such a feature, maybe it's not even worth it... *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
Quick question, is there a way in the API (other than action=edit) to add/remove categories from a page? Because that seems to be one of the main things that would be holding this back from becoming an extension proper. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
Well in that case I might as well start working on a HotCat extension... *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: +wiki tech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-16 Thread Tyler Romeo
articles are being disambiguated on the page. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Version of the Flow Prototype Released

2013-07-13 Thread Tyler Romeo
Where can we file bugs for this? Also, who came up with the design for this? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.orgwrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Version of the Flow Prototype Released

2013-07-13 Thread Tyler Romeo
and others gray? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's not a product (yet), so there's no place in BZ to file

[Wikitech-l] mod_pagespeed and MediaWiki

2013-07-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
and domain sharding. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving a page to a category page.

2013-07-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
Soon...https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65176 *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/11/13, Beebe, Mary J bee

Re: [Wikitech-l] Are revision tags in the dump files?

2013-07-09 Thread Tyler Romeo
Follow-up question. Will our new dumps project be dumping the change_tag table? ;) *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving on from Doxygen?

2013-07-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
Could we maybe get use PHPDoc to generate MediaWiki docs, so that we can compare them side-by-side. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] Suggested file format of new incremental dumps

2013-07-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
You should look into maybe using cmake or some other automated build system to handle the cross-platform compatibility. Also, are you planning on using C++11 features? (Just asking because I'm a big C++11 fan. ;) ). *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggested file format of new incremental dumps

2013-07-02 Thread Tyler Romeo
determined statically by namespace. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP question re. isset( $array['key'][0] ) versus array_key_exists( 0, $array['key'] )

2013-07-02 Thread Tyler Romeo
/first', $ax ) Meaning, it's possible that $ax[...] isn't set, meaning trying to see if the index 0 is in $ax[...] will cause an error. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Composer support for installing MediaWiki extensions

2013-07-02 Thread Tyler Romeo
to install the non-dev of an extension? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Composer support for installing MediaWiki extensions

2013-07-02 Thread Tyler Romeo
libraries across all of them. And that is exactly what Composer was made to do, but achieving this is difficult considering extensions are separate projects. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggested file format of new incremental dumps

2013-07-01 Thread Tyler Romeo
Petr is right on par with this one. The purpose of this version 2 for dumps is to allow protocol-specific incremental updating of the dump, which would be significantly more difficult in non-binary format. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Sean Pringle, our latest TechOps member

2013-06-24 Thread Tyler Romeo
Welcome! *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Ken Snider ksni...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome to the team, Sean! :) --Ken. On 2013-06-24, at 11:17 AM, Ct

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removal of Bugzilla admins

2013-06-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
totally understand the shift. The only thing I'd recommend is to still maintain a public list of who has what rights, mainly for the purpose of contact info should somebody need something done in Bugzilla or have a question. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removal of Bugzilla admins

2013-06-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
I'd also like to know this information. Being a Bugzilla admin and helping out with the bug workflow and security issues and whatnot has always been something I've wanted to do. But if the WMF is trying to consolidate for some reason... *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class

[Wikitech-l] Bikeshed 5: The Painter Strikes Back

2013-06-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
!is_null( ... ) versus !== null). Also, there's no functional difference between the two. Any objections other than maintaining the status quo? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshed 5: The Painter Strikes Back

2013-06-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
everybody thinks so I can know whether to stop telling people to use === null on code review. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Doxygen tags - a proposal

2013-06-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
that. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating use of the style attribute (part 1)

2013-06-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
Just for the record, which security issues would this be fixing? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Many of you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecating use of the style attribute (part 1)

2013-06-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
exploitable. Ah, I see. How I'd love to see that. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS Questions

2013-06-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
people have issues with the lock icons that $wgSecureLogin adds. But that would be a trivial thing to hide. Awesome! Thanks for the update. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.4 (we wish)

2013-06-09 Thread Tyler Romeo
is PHP 5.5, which has generators, finally clauses, dereferencing of container literals, and a new password hashing API. Unfortunately it'll be literally a decade before we switch to that. :( *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

[Wikitech-l] Pager code review

2013-06-09 Thread Tyler Romeo
Not sure who to add, but if somebody familiar with the TablePager class could review this patchset I'd appreciate it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67627 First time I've used the class. It works, but I want to make sure I'm using it properly. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology

Re: [Wikitech-l] [tool labs] central logging service

2013-06-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
Where is the source code for this logging script/software? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Replies bellow On Sat, Jun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Doxygen tags - a proposal

2013-06-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
, and it is indeed different. When Doxygen sees a type, it separates it from the parameter description and adds styling and whatnot. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
feature as being groups, Chris suggested using the term permission to refer to the fundamental unit of an OAuth grant. But then wouldn't it be confused with permissions? Why not just call it a grant? Though I guess that has it's own issues since OAuth has authorization grants... *-- * *Tyler Romeo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Strange PHPUnit behaviour

2013-06-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
What Brad said. In this case, I believe the assertSame function should be used instead, which emulates ===. On Jun 7, 2013 1:55 PM, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com wrote: What is wrong here? Wrong test case +

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help with Scribunto/Lua modules

2013-06-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
of actual debugger. Like a full-blown console or something where you could test code and it would tell you where it failed and why, etc. I know some of this is supported already. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS Questions

2013-06-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: You are misreading. What is being discussed is HTTPS by default for anonymous readers. Ah yes. I see now. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
(ten years down the road or something) the system ever be re-designed. That way the future us (or whoever's on the project at the time) doesn't have to rethink the same arguments. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question re. Html class : I ran into a problem correctly escaping the $content component

2013-06-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
info: http://php.net/manual/en/function.htmlspecialchars.php *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: I recently try to modernize

[Wikitech-l] Just noticed GitBlit

2013-06-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
So when did we get this new repo browser? Looks pretty nice, but I should note that all on-wiki gitweb links have now been broken. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] migrating hooks doc to doxygen?

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
file. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Since we introduced hooks in MediaWiki, the documentation has been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20905 was merged for the purpose of enabling OAuth. The intention was just to have the extension hook into that, check for the Authorization header and validate it. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
stuff. By saying you can only use OAuth if you're open source, it's the same as saying if you're closed source you must use insecure authentication methods. Because just saying OAuth must be open source isn't going to stop closed source developers. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, of course. It makes no sense. I changed it to a _should_ in the wiki page Thanks. I figure it was just written quickly during brainstorming. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
our own permissions, which already exists, as the permissions for OAuth tokens. It allows the highest level of granularity for permissions and allows us to easily display to the user exactly what the application will be allowed to do. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
) permissions. Maybe I'm missing something, but how does editing a page require 8 permissions. Shouldn't you just need edit? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
oppose for a completely independent reason. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

[Wikitech-l] Separation of Concerns

2013-06-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
/66286 Am I the only person who thinks it's a bad idea for the AuthPlugin class to be relying on the ApiBase class for its interface? Especially since the AuthPlugin framework isn't supposed to handle authorization logic anyway. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Nik Everett

2013-05-31 Thread Tyler Romeo
Welcome! I'm in the midst of trying to get MediaWiki to work with AWS's search interface, so it's always good to have more search people (although I'm sure you'll be doing more with WMF's search backend). *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed v. Size

2013-05-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
For the record, the times I mentioned above were user time and not real time, so changing the priority or affinity of the process wouldn't really affect it that much. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro

[Wikitech-l] Speed v. Size

2013-05-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
a 37% reduction in escaping speed? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed v. Size

2013-05-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
of insignificant), and I have no idea what the page size change is. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed v. Size

2013-05-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
. I shall delve deeper into benchmarking and see if there is any difference. At the very least, htmlspecialchars() is simpler and makes the code easier to understand. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC / OPW community bonding period

2013-05-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
To be clear, the mentors don't have to upload pictures of themselves, do they? (Not that I mind ;) ) *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:54 PM, sankarshan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed v. Size

2013-05-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
time, so take it with a grain of salt. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

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