Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata Infoboxes

2012-07-11 Thread jmcclure
Krinkle, When you say "Whether some Wikipedia's output is semantically correct is important, but (afaik) has *zero* relationship with Wikidata. And as such is not relevant here" then I feel compelled to point out that an ontology is most certainly envisioned -- wikidata is implementing the SMW

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata Infoboxes

2012-07-10 Thread jmcclure
With regard to wikidata infoboxes, it is either * that the usual technical APIs implemented as parser functions must be learned by every Wikipedian * or that simple interwiki transclusions are entered via the emerging WYSIWYG tools for Wikipedia With regard to the content of wikidata infob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata

2012-07-10 Thread jmcclure
Hi Ryan, Normal wiki rules of the road are about who can edit what and when, not so much how, that I was referencing; I was responding to the concern about "control". You say: "Housing the infoboxes on WikiData would be a terrible idea for several reasons: * Every Wikipedia does infoboxes dif

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata

2012-07-10 Thread jmcclure
ven more so, over infobox content & styling. Thanks - john On 10.07.2012 14:08, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > On 10.07.2012 16:47, jmcclure@hypergrove.comwrote: > >> I am concerned about the performance impact of every wikipedia calling an API for each property that it wishes to f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of Wikidata

2012-07-10 Thread jmcclure
Hi Denny, I am concerned about the performance impact of every wikipedia calling an API for each property that it wishes to format as content in pages' infoboxes, as I understand is the design the project is pursuing. Could you please explain to this community why it's technically superior to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata: Splitting the Cache by Language

2012-07-10 Thread jmcclure
Hi Daniel, Thanks for the background about wikidata's caching requirements. A few questions: 1. Will wikidata have any transcludable pages that contain just infoboxes? Seems to me that {{wikidata:en:infobox:Thomas Jefferson}} could be transformed quite readily into [http://www.wikidata.org/w