[Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
All, TL;DR: * References made using Cite will be configurable with a different system * New approach being prototyped in Parsoid's native implementation of the Cite extension The Cite extension[0], which provides in-page footnotes is a crucial part of how many of us use wikis, especially for Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < marc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display > styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for users, > else those users with different languages will see different

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Kevin Israel
On 12/16/2014 07:45 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < > marc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display >> styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for users, >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread James Forrester
On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < > marc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display > > styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
esome, sounds like a great idea. I'm still confused on the exact details of how this will work, so I'd appreciate clarification. > From: jforres...@wikimedia.org > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:46 -0800 > To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread James Forrester
On 16 December 2014 at 21:07, Arcane 21 wrote: > At the risk of sounding stupid, does this mean other wikis will need a > Parsoid instance to use this extension, or is this simply being tested in a > Parsoid environment and it's just using CSS instead of wikitext for > rendering? If the former, n

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Arcane 21
Thanks for the clarification. I think the idea (as you explained it) sounds great, hope you guys can get it working. :) > From: jforres...@wikimedia.org > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:06:11 -0800 > To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite > configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles > > > > On 16 December 2014 at 21:07, Arcane 21 wrote: > > > > > At the risk of sounding stupid, does thi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman < d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ehm, has accessibility been taken into account with this design ? Quoting > WebAIM: "Always use native HTML markup to provide the necessary semantic > content and meaning, then use CSS to enhance and change

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, James Forrester wrote: > On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < > > marc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2015-01-14 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < marc...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > TL;DR: > * References made using Cite will be configurable with a different system > * New approach being prototyped in Parsoid's native implementation of the > Cite extension > > FYI: There's now a Phabricat