Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Tomasz Finc
Thanks Yongmin, Operations will need to update the referrer in Varnish ERB. Similar to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/239279/ --tomasz On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Yongmin Hong wrote: > Done at T113122, but why operations? > > -- > revi > https://revi.me > -- Sent from Android -- > 20

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yongmin Hong
Done at T113122, but why operations? -- revi https://revi.me -- Sent from Android -- 2015. 9. 19. 오전 9:27에 "Yuri Astrakhan" 님이 작성: > Please file a phabricator task, and add maps and operations on it > On Sep 19, 2015 3:21 AM, "Yongmin Hong" wrote: > > > 2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Please file a phabricator task, and add maps and operations on it On Sep 19, 2015 3:21 AM, "Yongmin Hong" wrote: > 2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성: > > > > The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static > maps > > service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yongmin Hong
2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성: > > The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static maps > service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org. > > Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own tools > using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 09/17/2015 03:26 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static maps service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org. Congratulations to the whole team. This is a huge deal, and will open up our projects to whole new kinds of media, editing, an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
The bracketing was introduced to reduce the DDOS attack surface and increase the cache hit ratio. This means that we could in theory do all the magic of bracketing in the varnish (to keep the cache rate high), or we could force the clients to do the logic. The problem with Varnish approach is that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Brion Vibber
Awesome sauce! Congrats to everyone who's been working on this. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: > == In Depth == > > Tiles are served from https://maps.wikimedia.org, but can only be accessed > from any subdomains of *.wmflabs .org and *.wikivoyage.org. Kartotherian > can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
The STYLE of the map is in https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2 which is a fork from https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-osm-bright.tm2 -- released by Mapbox under a 3 clause BSD license (IANAL). On Thu,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Max Semenik
The underlying data is ODbL which is properly attributed per OSM guidelines. The license for tiles themselves is a different issue, OSM decided to CC them, we're not claiming any additional copyright so far, until legal tells us in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111224 On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Kaldari
ODbL (which is the license for the data) doesn't require any particular license for maps produced from ODbL data. (And in the U.S. data isn't copyrightable anyway.) There is a copyright on the style and presentation of the tiles which is separate from any copyright on the data. This copyright belon

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Oliver Keyes
While the presentation of data can be copyrighted within the United States, and database rights permit the pseudo-copyrighting of data within the European Union, our core servers are hosted within the United States - a jurisdiction where data /itself/ cannot be copyrighted. Our license does not hav

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
I feel like there's an argument to be made that the images are a derived work from the data itself, so it may be best to just stick with OSM's license rather than run into any possible issues. (Also, of course, I am biased and prefer copyleft licenses since they support free information.) *-- * *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Kaldari
And in case that isn't decided, I would suggest CC0 so that we don't have to link to a big explanation from each tile rendering :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > What is the license for the map tiles, i.e. the cartography rather than > the data? Open Street Maps uses CC-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Kaldari
What is the license for the map tiles, i.e. the cartography rather than the data? Open Street Maps uses CC-BY-SA, although they don't really make it clear who is supposed to be attributed. It looks like our tiles are different though. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: > The Di

[Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-17 Thread Tomasz Finc
The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static maps service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org. Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own tools using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle traffic from *.wmflabs .org and *.wikivoyage .org (re