Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ilmari Karonen wrote: > Platonides wrote: >> Gregory Maxwell wrote: >>> >>> It's not reasonable by any human (or legal) standard to continue to >>> misattribute in a case like that, yet addressing that case with some >>> automatically generated report is not easy.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Ilmari Karonen
Platonides wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> >> It's not reasonable by any human (or legal) standard to continue to >> misattribute in a case like that, yet addressing that case with some >> automatically generated report is not easy. > > There could be an override for some articles for outsiders

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Platonides
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Often, sure— But what happens when it fails and you have someone > yelling loudly on the talk page "Hey! it's misattributing my > authorship to some dumb bot, yet I wrote the whole thing!" ... > > It's not reasonable by any human (or legal) standard to continue to > misat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Soxred93
It's more of a starting point, to flag editors who may have made the edits. All that would remain is looking over if that user did in fact make that edit (and if they didn't, it's back to square 1) On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM [Jan 26, 2009 ], Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: [snip] > When the license calls for attribution to be treated in a "reasonable" > way, I suspect that one could make a good case that relying on a good > blame engine would often generate a reasonable attempt at attribution, [snip] Often, sure—

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Petr Kadlec wrote: >> Is the code available and I have missed it? Do we have any other >> implementation? > > I tried to do something similar (two examples are at > http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AIM.htm > http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AFC_Ajax.htm); the code is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Petr Kadlec
> Is the code available and I have missed it? Do we have any other > implementation? I tried to do something similar (two examples are at http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AIM.htm http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AFC_Ajax.htm); the code is nothing secret, even though it is not too clean, and there is als

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-24 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Platonides schrieb: > With all the discussion on foundation-l about contributors and > attribution, I have noted that while there're two different > implementations for blaming mediawiki articles, none of them seem to be > publically available. > There're some example results, but not the tools the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-23 Thread Michael Rosenthal
If you mean something like that, here are some: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Jah/Rhic http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:APPER/WikiHistory On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Platonides wrote: > With all the discussion on foundation-l about contributors and > attribution, I have noted

[Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-23 Thread Platonides
With all the discussion on foundation-l about contributors and attribution, I have noted that while there're two different implementations for blaming mediawiki articles, none of them seem to be publically available. There're some example results, but not the tools themselves. The implementations