[Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-17 Thread Happy-melon
There's another discussion happening at enwiki at the moment about the stalled rollout of RevisionDelete for admins; which is backed up in the chain of bugs which boils down to "our deletion mechanism is borked". Reviewing the whole deletion mechanism was on the topic list for the last dev meet

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
Hi, > There's another discussion happening at enwiki at the moment about the > stalled rollout of RevisionDelete for admins; which is backed up in the > chain of bugs which boils down to "our deletion mechanism is borked". Indeed. Basically, we have two deletion schemas in parallel at the momen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Happy-melon
"church.of.emacs.ml" wrote in message news:4bf2632f.8000...@googlemail.com... > Hi, > >> There's another discussion happening at enwiki at the moment about the >> stalled rollout of RevisionDelete for admins; which is backed up in the >> chain of bugs which boils down to "our deletion mechanism i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Happy-melon
ndrew Garrett" Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:05 PM To: "Happy-melon" ; "Wikimedia developers" Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Happy-melon wrote: >> There's another discussion happening at enwiki at the moment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread OQ
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Happy-melon wrote: > It is a generic problem, but it has particularly nasty interactions with > RevisionDelete: fundamentally, it can become impossible to tell when, why or > by whom a RevDel'd revision was deleted.  The other manifestations of the > lunacy of iden

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
OQ wrote: > Or we could just ignore[1] them. > 1 - > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29&diff=101684983&oldid=101671249 I strongly disagree with brion and I hope that everyone realizes just deleting the archive table is not an option. While the archive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Platonides
We should start a page at mediawiki.org listing the Pros and Cons of each option. Church of Emacs: > I'm still not sure whether RevisionDelete is aimed at replacing the old > deletion schema completely, including the archive table. Could anyone > comment on that please? It's the logical evolutio

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Chad
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Platonides wrote: > > We should start a page at mediawiki.org listing the Pros and Cons of > each option. > Put it as a subpage of [[RFC]]. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deletion schema

2010-05-18 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Platonides wrote: >> >> We should start a page at mediawiki.org listing the Pros and Cons of >> each option. >> > > Put it as a subpage of [[RFC]]. > > -Chad I started it at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Page_deletion Please, c

[Wikitech-l] Deletion schema proposal: Bug 55398

2013-10-18 Thread Nathan Larson
In one of the earlier discussions about revising the deletion schema, Happy-Melon pointed out, "Right now everyone who has ideas for *an* implementation isn't working on it because they don't know if it's *the* implementation we want." It seems to me that if one proposal is clearly superior, we m