Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-20 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome :) Probably also worth adding a quick box to suggest a rename of the page when it's imported. Added. I think doing it this way is kind of neat, especially if there's an easy way to see all the content that's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-18 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: We need to identify which documentation should and should not be migrated over when it occurs, as there is a lot of documentation that is old/inaccurate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-18 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rob Moen has been working on a simple JS tool that facilitates the tagging process. Basically, instead of manually tagging the pages with a different template for each action (archive, delete, keep), there's a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
Indeed, why we need to separate it? We should separate docs for applications, for server configuration and such, categories are fine to do that. But there is no need to separate wmf projects and community projects. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Namespaces are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Ryan Lane
I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova management interface on this same new wikitech wiki though. This means that all the community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki to document their internal structure - which can (and should be) a lot of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Krinkle
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Lane wrote: I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova management interface on this same new wikitech wiki though. This means that all the community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki to document their internal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched bot, doesn't have a time to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are funded by foundation. But this difference is only about people and money, so why should we have a different wiki for that On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I wanted to say volunteer projects which are affiliated with various wikimedia projects On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are funded

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Chad
I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis. Namespaces are cheap. -Chad On Jun 7, 2012 11:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis. Namespaces are cheap. Namespaces are usually a pain in the ass. Sj's post on the subject: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia.orgdiff=365735 6oldid=3657294#Separating_the_wheat_from_the_chaff.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Ryan Lane
Namespaces are usually a pain in the ass. Sj's post on the subject: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia.orgdiff=365735 6oldid=3657294#Separating_the_wheat_from_the_chaff. From his post: ... but that would address many of the reasons that people fragment what are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-06 Thread Krinkle
There's been some conversation about this in the past (not sure which mailing list). Yes, we should definitly centralize documentation about these into one wiki: * Documentation of production cluster (e.g. 'fenari', 'srv###', 'db###', upload/scalers, squids etc. ) * Wikimedia engineering projects

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-06 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 7 June 2012 00:08, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Also, a general note: Beware that you doesn't confuse beta with Wikimedia Labs. beta is one of many projects hosted inside the Labs environment. The beta project is a virtual clone of the production cluster. Any documentation

[Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I heard that there was a plan to merge these wikis to one central wiki for technical documentation for various projects on wikimedia, what is the current status of that? Are we going to merge it to labsconsole, or to wikitech? There are some services atm running on labs and documentation is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Ryan Lane
I heard that there was a plan to merge these wikis to one central wiki for technical documentation for various projects on wikimedia, what is the current status of that? Are we going to merge it to labsconsole, or to wikitech? There are some services atm running on labs and documentation is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that there was a plan to merge these wikis to one central wiki for technical documentation for various projects on wikimedia, what is the current status of that? Are we going to merge it to labsconsole, or to wikitech?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
I'd be happy to help, however wikitech is restricted wiki, so I guess I can't really help there, anyway I think it would be best if current wikitech was kept for historical purposes, and in case we forgot to move something you could find it in, wikitech-historical.wikimedia.org or similar url On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to help, however wikitech is restricted wiki, so I guess I can't really help there, anyway I think it would be best if current wikitech was kept for historical purposes, and in case we forgot to move something you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
Ok, if there is any stuff that can be done on wikitech like categorization of pages etc I could help with that, but otherwise I have no idea how I could be useful on that wiki, I have barely any knowledge of production. What exactly did you mean by community support On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:11

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, if there is any stuff that can be done on wikitech like categorization of pages etc I could help with that, but otherwise I have no idea how I could be useful on that wiki, I have barely any knowledge of production. What