Dmitriy Sintsov wrote:
> If I understand correctly, current js2-work branch will be a base for
> 1.17?
No, not really.
> Is there any way to make old MonoBook derived skins to be
> compatible with js2 code?
The js2-work branch doesn't delete anything, it's just a ton of new code.
> I have l
* Siebrand Mazeland [Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:04:56
+0100]:
> If this is merged after the 1.16 branching, and support for old skins
> would be dropped from 1.17 on, you'll be able to use the old skinning
> system up to EOL of 1.16 as a supported version, expected somewhere
> around March 2011 or a few
On 02/11/2010 03:28 PM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> Skin system rewrite currently supports old, SkinTemplate/QuickTemplate-based
> skins. For example, Vector uses SkinTemplate and QuickTemplate and it works
> well -- but as noted earlier, it won't support some of the new features
> (SkinAfterSidebar hook
Skin system rewrite currently supports old, SkinTemplate/QuickTemplate-based
skins. For example, Vector uses SkinTemplate and QuickTemplate and it works
well -- but as noted earlier, it won't support some of the new features
(SkinAfterSidebar hook and whatever else we may add in the future) until
i
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Conrad Irwin
wrote:
> This is great, just one question though - will "old-style" skins still
> be supported (for a few versions at least)? I have a dozen or so skins
> that currently work, it would be an absolute nightmare if I have to
> upgrade them all when Media
bject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite
This is great, just one question though - will "old-style" skins still
be supported (for a few versions at least)? I have a dozen or so skins
that currently work, it would be an absolute nightmare if I have to
upgrade them all when MediaWiki swa
On 02/11/2010 02:31 PM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> Wow, this sparked quite a discussion -- I'm pleased to hear that so many
> people are interested in reworking MW's skin system to make it better! :-)
>
> As per Tim's request, I've created a branch for this in r62304 and applied
> the initial patch in
Wow, this sparked quite a discussion -- I'm pleased to hear that so many
people are interested in reworking MW's skin system to make it better! :-)
As per Tim's request, I've created a branch for this in r62304 and applied
the initial patch in r62306. Feel free to check out the branch[1] and submi
6:36 AM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite
jack, I would suggest if you don't already have SVN access then to
request it on wiki(1), Then if/when you get it create a (or ask
someone to do it for you) branch and start working on and then more
people can hel
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> Hi all,
...
> Jack Phoenix
jack, I would suggest if you don't already have SVN access then to
request it on wiki(1), Then if/when you get it create a (or ask
someone to do it for you) branch and start working on and then more
people can help an
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
> Not all changes made in the HTML output of Vector were made arbitrarily
> or gratuitously as is being assumed here.
No one was assuming that. I pointed out several differences that
*are* gratuitous, in that they do not provide any function
On 2/10/10 3:50 PM, Platonides wrote:
> Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Trevor Parscal
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Merging Monobook and Modern is actually a good point for one of my other
>>> ideas, which is to have themes for skins. In other words, same HTML
>>> generatio
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
>> Merging Monobook and Modern is actually a good point for one of my other
>> ideas, which is to have themes for skins. In other words, same HTML
>> generation, different CSS. Then Monobook and Modern could naturally be
>
On 2/10/10 6:55 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote:
> 2010/2/10 Aryeh Gregor:
>
>> I'm also concerned by the fact that at least some (I haven't looked
>> closely) of the Usability Initiative stuff seems to work only in
>> Vector. For instance, apparently EditWarning doesn't work at all in
>> non-Vector sk
On 10 February 2010 14:45, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> That means 6% aren't, i.e., ~700,000 users. That's actually much
> higher than I expected. It would be particularly silly to throw out
> Chick, Simple, and MySkin, since those differ from Monobook only in
> CSS.
> I don't think we should get rid
2010/2/10 Aryeh Gregor :
> I'm also concerned by the fact that at least some (I haven't looked
> closely) of the Usability Initiative stuff seems to work only in
> Vector. For instance, apparently EditWarning doesn't work at all in
> non-Vector skins, although it's surely just as applicable. Skin
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
> Why only Monobook and Vector? 94%[1] of users on English Wikipedia are
> currently using one of them.
That means 6% aren't, i.e., ~700,000 users. That's actually much
higher than I expected. It would be particularly silly to throw out
Chic
Jack Phoenix wrote:
> I haven't ported Vector skin to use this new system because it's currently
> under development. Because this change is quite a big one, I thought that
> I'll commit it to SVN once MediaWiki 1.16 has been released so that it'll
> make into the 1.17 release.
Commit it to a bran
On 2/9/10 4:54 PM, Chad wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/10 4:07 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Platonideswrote:
>>>
>>>
We will be glad to have you on it, Trevor. Rewriting the skin system is
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
> On 2/9/10 4:07 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Platonides wrote:
>>
>>> We will be glad to have you on it, Trevor. Rewriting the skin system is
>>> not urgent, although I would like to have a newskin compatible vec
On 2/9/10 4:07 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Platonides wrote:
>
>> We will be glad to have you on it, Trevor. Rewriting the skin system is
>> not urgent, although I would like to have a newskin compatible vector
>> skin before releasing 1.16. This way, we wouldn't
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Platonides wrote:
> We will be glad to have you on it, Trevor. Rewriting the skin system is
> not urgent, although I would like to have a newskin compatible vector
> skin before releasing 1.16. This way, we wouldn't be forced to support
> an old vector design.
Sinc
Trevor Parscal wrote:
> I've been very busy with deployments, so I've been waiting to talk here,
> but I think that there are allot of considerations for a skinning system
> that I could help shed some light on when I get some time (maybe next
> week?). The Usability Initiative's last hard deadl
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> Not yet at least, the indentation/newlines aren't consistent yet. Then
> again, Brion removed some unnecessary whitespace in r55496 for JavaScript
> variables in , so I dunno how important it is to have everything
> indented properly in the HTM
On 2/9/10 10:58 AM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Roan Kattouwwrote:
>
>
>> Not any more, the Vector skin itself has been stable for months. All
>> the usability work is currently done in the UsabilityInitiative
>> extension.
>>
>
> Ah, good to know. I must admit
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote:
> Not any more, the Vector skin itself has been stable for months. All
> the usability work is currently done in the UsabilityInitiative
> extension.
Ah, good to know. I must admit that Vector's code is a bit more complicated
than your average
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Jack Phoenix wrote:
> MediaWiki's skin system has been quite a mess for some while. I decided to
> try rewriting it and you can see the end result on [1]. It's quite a big
> patch, which is why I want to encourage all developers to test it and report
> (or maybe eve
Roan Kattouw wrote:
> 2010/2/8 Jack Phoenix:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> MediaWiki's skin system has been quite a mess for some while. I decided to
>> try rewriting it
> AWESOME! Someone finally took up this task :D
>
>> and you can see the end result on [1]. It's quite a big
>> patch, which is why I want to
2010/2/8 Jack Phoenix :
> Hi all,
>
> MediaWiki's skin system has been quite a mess for some while. I decided to
> try rewriting it
AWESOME! Someone finally took up this task :D
> and you can see the end result on [1]. It's quite a big
> patch, which is why I want to encourage all developers to te
Hi all,
MediaWiki's skin system has been quite a mess for some while. I decided to
try rewriting it and you can see the end result on [1]. It's quite a big
patch, which is why I want to encourage all developers to test it and report
(or maybe even fix? :) any and all issues they stumble across. Th
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