On 13/09/11 01:23, Rob Lanphier wrote:
Do you imagine that the
person who creates the next great MediaWiki theme is someone who is a
CSS expert, or more of a programmer?
Ultimately, it should be someone with none of those skills.
I like how blogspot.com let you move around the boxes, change
On 11-09-13 11:23 PM, Ashar Voultoiz wrote:
On 13/09/11 01:23, Rob Lanphier wrote:
Do you imagine that the
person who creates the next great MediaWiki theme is someone who is a
CSS expert, or more of a programmer?
Ultimately, it should be someone with none of those skills.
I like how
On 11-09-11 04:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
Aye, there's absolutely no way HAML is going to fly with the majority of
people building skins.
Instead of Why the hell do I have to insert all this junk just to make
my
* Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com [Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:48:35
-0700]:
On 11-09-11 04:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
Aye, there's absolutely no way HAML is going to fly with the
majority
of
people
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
On 11-09-11 04:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
I'm curious what problem you're trying to solve. It sounds like
you're trying to get people who are currently working on Wordpress
skins or Drupal skins to work on
On 11-09-12 04:23 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
On 11-09-11 04:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote:
I'm curious what problem you're trying to solve. It sounds like
you're trying to get people who are currently working on
: Thursday, September 08, 2011 2:18 PM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Taking suggestions for a template language syntax for
our skin system
How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAC_%28programming_language%29 ?
It has the benefit that simple things are simple, but you can create
, 2011 2:18 PM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Taking suggestions for a template language syntax
for our skin system
How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAC_%28programming_language%29 ?
It has the benefit that simple things are simple, but you can create
complicated
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Taking suggestions for a template language syntax for
our skin system
It's over complicated for our needs, and we really don't need another full
featured language to learn and parse. It's like saying everyone should learn
ruby so we can do skins
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
Aye, there's absolutely no way HAML is going to fly with the majority of
people building skins.
Instead of Why the hell do I have to insert all this junk just to make
my skin work right? I'm going back to
On 06/09/11 08:27, Daniel Friesen wrote:
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So, I'd love to see other peoples ideas on the best syntax for our skin
system.
Or ideas or comments on how to fix the problem with the syntax I came up
with.
Can you possibly have a look at HAML? It is a basic language that makes
HTML 'simpler'
My main complaint with Haml and Sass are that they introduce yet another
syntax, all while trying to simplify things. On the other extreme XSLT uses
XML syntax, but can get pretty complex, usually unnecessarily so - it also
introduces XPath, which some developers may not know.
Ideally we should
Aye, there's absolutely no way HAML is going to fly with the majority of
people building skins.
Instead of Why the hell do I have to insert all this junk just to make
my skin work right? I'm going back to WordPress. kind of issue we had
before I cleaned up the skin system we'll end up with a What
How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAC_%28programming_language%29 ?
It has the benefit that simple things are simple, but you can create
complicated things because it's a full programming language.
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One of the things I believe we're missing from our skin system is a
template language.
PHP embedding is excessively verbose, and it makes it impossible to
contemplate letting users upload skins at whim in a farm scenario.
There are also other things we can't do with php that we can do with a
I wrote a node.js module, which could easily be ported to PHP, which uses
DOM on the server to pre-process HTML, acting on some specific tags and
resulting in clean HTML output. This only works for HTML, so I don't know
about your requirements of being able to do this in inline CSS as well, but
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