Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc van Leerdam
Hi, On 24 May 2010 21:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 May 2010 20:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a known graceful-degradation path when a browser is just too crappy to deal with l33t skins like Vector? I'm thinking of the PS3 users here, noisy as they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread Tei
Maybe could be usefull to have a special url that automatically disable vector, and make this setting continue with the session (is that even possible?). Like http://en.wikipedia.com/classicview So people designing smartphones, that want his smartphone to use the old interface, can make the link

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe could be usefull to have a special url that automatically disable vector, and make this setting continue with the session (is that even possible?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?useskin=monobook You have to readd

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 May 2010 16:25, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe could be usefull to have a special url that automatically disable vector, and make this setting continue with the session (is that even possible?).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason not to make useskin= persistent? i.e., to render all internal links on a page with a useskin= if one was used in the URL? Yes. We'd have to either fragment the parser cache, or implement some type of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread Tei
On 24 May 2010 17:25, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe could be usefull to have a special url that automatically disable vector, and make this setting continue with the session (is that even possible?).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread Naoko Komura
David Gerard wrote: On 24 May 2010 16:25, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe could be usefull to have a special url that automatically disable vector, and make this setting continue with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 May 2010 19:58, Naoko Komura nkom...@wikimedia.org wrote: Another possible solution is to serve the mobile site when the page is requested from blackberry.  I am working with Tomasz and Hamton, if we can make the switch. That's the obvious answer, yes :-) Do we have a known

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 May 2010 20:04, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a known graceful-degradation path when a browser is just too crappy to deal with l33t skins like Vector? I'm thinking of the PS3 users here, noisy as they are considering their near-negligible user percentage. ('Cos when

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Platonides
vyznev wrote: I'd suspect some script is trying to do an API query using a very long URL, and the fact that this only happens when JS is enabled lends support to this. I don't see any long url requested on enwiki. I would guess that the Javascript associated with Vector is using more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Tei
On 14 May 2010 16:34, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: vyznev wrote: I'd suspect some script is trying to do an API query using a very long URL, and the fact that this only happens when JS is enabled lends support to this. I don't see any long url requested on enwiki. I would guess

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Chad
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe a Blackberry emulator can be usefull (one that is accurate). Any idea of where one can be downloaded? First google result: http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/resources/simulators.jsp -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread David Gerard
BTW, Vector is also breaking the PS3 browser, according to a couple of comments on the blog post. We seem not to be quite achieving that graceful degradation thing immaculately ... - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-14 Thread Huib Laurens
When visiting a vector site with a Nokia N-series (tested on N90,95and 96) viewing it on Opera Mini there are problems also. Its impossible to click the buttons userpage, talkpage, watchlist .. they are all in the same spot, trying to press will give the prefences. The Buttons with Edit Talk

[Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread David Gerard
There's a few comments on the Wikimedia blog saying they can't access en:wp any more using their BlackBerry. Though we tried it here on an 8900 and it works. Any other reports? - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: There's a few comments on the Wikimedia blog saying they can't access en:wp any more using their BlackBerry. Though we tried it here on an 8900 and it works. Any other reports? Punching in http://en.wikipedia.org/ as I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread Russell Blau
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktin9qhcgvataegsdrwjuc-jegj-iwdg6f9oyt...@mail.gmail.com... There's a few comments on the Wikimedia blog saying they can't access en:wp any more using their BlackBerry. Though we tried it here on an 8900 and it works. Any other reports?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread Ilmari Karonen
On 05/13/2010 10:55 PM, Russell Blau wrote: David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktin9qhcgvataegsdrwjuc-jegj-iwdg6f9oyt...@mail.gmail.com... There's a few comments on the Wikimedia blog saying they can't access en:wp any more using their BlackBerry. Though we tried it here

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/5/13 Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net: Error 413 generally means, in plain English, URL too long.  I'd suspect some script is trying to do an API query using a very long URL, and the fact that this only happens when JS is enabled lends support to this. Assuming that the Blackberry

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector skin not working on BlackBerry?

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/13 Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net: Error 413 generally means, in plain English, URL too long.  I'd suspect some script is trying to do an API query using a very long URL, and the fact that this only happens