Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 January 2012 02:48, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: You do realize that going by what you are saying. If 503's weren't cached for that reason, then EVERY single request would be forwarded to the apaches. I'm talking about external caches, as I assumed everyone else was.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-19 Thread John Du Hart
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 19 January 2012 02:48, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: You do realize that going by what you are saying. If 503's weren't cached for that reason, then EVERY single request would be forwarded to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-19 Thread Platonides
On 19/01/12 11:56, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 19 January 2012 02:48, Daniel Friesenli...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: You do realize that going by what you are saying. If 503's weren't cached for that reason, then EVERY single request would be forwarded to the apaches. I'm talking about external

[Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread Michael
(I sent this already in reply to another thread but with too narrow topic, and i think it's important enough to deserve its own. So pls excuse if you already read this.) To make the redirect a javascript is not a good idea. At least 2,213,922 users will never see it

[Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Gries
Michael wrote: Date: 2012-01-18 16:18:15 GMT (1 hour and 11 minutes ago) To make the redirect a javascript is not a good idea. +100 At least 2,213,922 users will never see it https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/?src=search and maybe way, way more since there are many

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread Chad
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: You should do a straightforward real shutdown instead, and deliver a fake 404 with explanation link. And for several more days. +1 Doing it via 404s would mess up search engines. -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread OQ
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: You should do a straightforward real shutdown instead, and deliver a fake 404 with explanation link. And for several more days. +1 Doing it via 404s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread John Du Hart
Cache pollution. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM, OQ overlo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: You should do a straightforward real shutdown instead, and deliver a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 18 January 2012 22:14, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote: Cache pollution. It would have to be a severely broken cache to be polluted by a 503. 503 is for temporary unavailability, you would be stupid to cache it. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wednesday wikipedia shut down does not get through

2012-01-18 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:29:31 -0800, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 January 2012 22:14, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote: Cache pollution. It would have to be a severely broken cache to be polluted by a 503. 503 is for temporary unavailability, you would be stupid