Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-10 Thread jidanni
Indeed, next thing you know it will jerk the ones mouse pointer between a [ ]Permanently accept [ ]Permanently reject box just as one is clicking. > "DF" == Daniel Friesen writes: DF> ;) I think you underestimate text browsers. DF> http://freshmeat.net/projects/links/ Did they ever fix links

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-08 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-10-08 04:03 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: >> "BL" == Benjamin Lees writes: > BL> Jidanni, are you using a text browser? That would probably explain > BL> the particular problem you're encountering. > Can text browsers even see any javascript site notices? No. ;) I think you underestima

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-08 Thread jidanni
> "BL" == Benjamin Lees writes: BL> Jidanni, are you using a text browser? That would probably explain BL> the particular problem you're encountering. Can text browsers even see any javascript site notices? No. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Roan Kattouw" > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel Friesen > wrote: > > The central notice banner is only shown to logged in users. Why are > > we > > even loading the notice in a separate out of band http request. And > > not > > bothering to cache it a

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Platonides" > Do they change in the same page view, or when changing pages? > (I have seen the later, when several campaigns are enabled, but the > former shouldn't happen) In the past -- especially because I'm prone to run Firefox in "Zoom text only" mode,

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Liangent
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > I have not seen this happening every 10 seconds, but it's bad enough > that the banner or site notice arrives 10 seconds after the first load, > and jerks the page around. It should be possible to allow a fixed size > space for the banner, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Benjamin Lees
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26234 might be relevant. Jidanni, are you using a text browser? That would probably explain the particular problem you're encountering. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://li

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 09/30/2011 02:45 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > On some of the Wikipedia sites, there are some messages near the top of > each page. These messages change every 10 or so seconds. > The problem is the number of lines in each of the changing messages is > not the same. > > This causes the entire

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-10-01 01:07 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel Friesen > wrote: >> The central notice banner is only shown to logged in users. Why are we >> even loading the notice in a separate out of band http request. And not >> bothering to cache it at that. >> > It is cach

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-10-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > The central notice banner is only shown to logged in users. Why are we > even loading the notice in a separate out of band http request. And not > bothering to cache it at that. > It is cacheable (public, max-age=300, s-maxage=300) but for so

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Daniel Friesen
The central notice banner is only shown to logged in users. Why are we even loading the notice in a separate out of band http request. And not bothering to cache it at that. ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] On 11-09-30 10:27 PM, Jon Davis wrote: > I see what

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Jon Davis
I see what he's talking about. The page loads, then the site notice javascript loads (pushing the page down) then the central notice loads. It is rather obnoxious that the central notice loads a noticeable amount _after_ everything else. The div (or what ever container it is) could at least be p

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > Anyway, there is no way for a normal user to file a proper bug report > about it, as it is all hidden in javascript that he does not see. All users are welcome to file bugs at bugzilla, and this method is frequently pushed/mentioned to users of all commun

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread jidanni
Login to http://zh.wikipedia.org/ and stare at the screen for a few seconds. Wait, it is probably due to me User:Jidanni being a member of some club. Anyway, there is no way for a normal user to file a proper bug report about it, as it is all hidden in javascript that he does not see. I'll contact

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Steve Summit
Platonides wrote: > jida...@jidanni.org wrote: >> On some of the Wikipedia sites, there are some messages near the top of >> each page. [...] This causes the entire page to jerk up and down the >> screen... > > Do they change in the same page view, or when changing pages? > (I have seen the later

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Platonides
jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > On some of the Wikipedia sites, there are some messages near the top of > each page. These messages change every 10 or so seconds. > The problem is the number of lines in each of the changing messages is > not the same. > > This causes the entire page to jerk up and dow

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Jon Davis
By the source code, I'd guess zh.wp Regardless, on that bug report you might want to add the browser you are using (With version) and anything else you can think of that might come into play (like Greasemonkey type extensions, for Firefox) On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:35, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 30/09/11 14:45, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > On some of the Wikipedia sites, there are some messages near the top of > each page. These messages change every 10 or so seconds. > The problem is the number of lines in each of the changing messages is > not the same. Which wikipedia sites exactly?

[Wikitech-l] pages jerk up and down every 10 seconds

2011-09-30 Thread jidanni
On some of the Wikipedia sites, there are some messages near the top of each page. These messages change every 10 or so seconds. The problem is the number of lines in each of the changing messages is not the same. This causes the entire page to jerk up and down the screen every 10 or so seconds. O