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Subject: Re: So lets say we do it
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:51:47 -0800
From: Kenny Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know how to use mail lists, so i though I might mail you
In responce to your ideas about reorganizing
Am Fre, 2002-11-01 um 00.09 schrieb Dimitrie O. Paun:
> -- the big "Navigation" box is wasted space, because
> 1. It contains items everybody expects as a left-hand menu
> 2. Contains no real content
> -- while pretty, the layout is a non-standard, and is a wee bit
> too far
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
> My thinking is that only the top-level items would be visible on the
> home page and then you can click on an item to expand it and go to its
> first page.
Agreed.
> Actually, if we want to reduce the number of top-level menus in my
> proposa
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
> Anyway, I'm not sure 'Status' should be top-level and if you look on
> GNUStep's site it is in fact level 2 (it's a submenu of 'Information').
It is definitely a 'one-click' item. I get a instant surge of sympathy
for projects (there are quite
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:18:56PM -0800, Francois Gouget wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> > BTW, how can I contribute to the WineHQ CVS? Can I get access to it?
>
> See http://www.winehq.com/development/
>
> Check out Winehq_com.
>
> Actually you can also get the same inf
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 07:00 pm, Francois Gouget wrote:
>
> This is a good start. Here are my comments, based on
> the following principles:
[...]
> > 1. About
> > 1.1. Intro
> > 1.2. Why Wine
> > 1.3. Wine myths debunked
> > 1.4. Technical detail
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 11:47 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
> > Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
> > http://lostwages.winehq.org. A very rough draft of the home page alone with
> > new nav should be online late (very very
On October 31, 2002 07:00 pm, Francois Gouget wrote:
This is a good start. Here are my comments, based on
the following principles:
-- while I appreciate (as a geek) the logical nesting
of topics, I think they should be organized
more around usage patterns. A common topic should
b
On October 31, 2002 11:47 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
> Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
> http://lostwages.winehq.org. A very rough draft of the home page alone with
> new nav should be online late (very very late) sunday night, pending real
> life (TM) does not
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
"Dimitrie O. Paun" writes:
>So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
>Great, it works!
You forgot a few things here:
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
they copy one from somewhere, it doesn't work becaus
> On October 31, 2002 05:05 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
>> Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
> OK mister, you're on! :)
> IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
That's a little more than a weekend of work.
Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
http://lost
> Once we have that we need to make sure we have suitable defaults to
> allow running at least the drives/paths control panel without registry
> files at all. We also need the Wine dlls to register themselves
> instead of having to merge winedefault.reg by hand. Then it should be
> possible to writ
Andreas Mohr wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:07:15PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
lucky t
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
[...]
> IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
> Namely:
> -- the big "Navigation" box is wasted space, because
> 1. It contains items everybody expects as a left-hand menu
> 2. Contains no real content
> -- while
On October 31, 2002 05:05 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
> Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
OK mister, you're on! :)
> I don't volunteer my weekends often, so speak now.
IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
Namely:
-- the big "Navigation" box is wasted space, because
1. It con
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 04:05:21PM -0600, Jeremy Newman wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 15:30, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> > Agreed. I say, let's get some of the content in shape, and worry about
> > the form a wee bit later. BTW, any web-design guys around, that may
> > want to take on this task?
>
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 15:30, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> Agreed. I say, let's get some of the content in shape, and worry about
> the form a wee bit later. BTW, any web-design guys around, that may
> want to take on this task?
Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
Wait a minute, I'm already in charge of that. Must
On October 31, 2002 04:26 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> I wouldn't be 100% against placing a Screenshot link on the main page
> - it's a mere 99% only.
> But with the current menu infrastructure, I'm about 150% against it.
> If we added a separate Screenshots menu item (which, by the way, I don't
> thi
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 04:16:45PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 03:58 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > BTW, I just updated the Contribute page quite a lot.
>
> Very cool. You see, there's a lot of good stuff on the site,
> but it's kinda hidden. We need to bring some of it
> (li
On October 31, 2002 04:18 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Bl**dy b*tch ! :-))
Listen man, I don't like that! I mean, what's up with the stars?!? :)))
> First you annoy the h*ll out of people, and then you behave as if nothing
> had ever happened and the weather was fantastic... ;-)
Oh, Andy dude, you
On October 31, 2002 03:58 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> BTW, I just updated the Contribute page quite a lot.
Very cool. You see, there's a lot of good stuff on the site,
but it's kinda hidden. We need to bring some of it
(like screenshots, FAQ, contributing) more to the front,
so people stumble upon i
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:20:34PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 03:11 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > Why, the current rate is avalanche-like ;)
> >
> > I'm growing ever more astonished about the increase in wine-patches per
> > day...
>
> Same here. It's quite amazing! But can
On October 31, 2002 03:33 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> (OK, if you're overly pessimistic, then you'll probably tell me now that
> nobody will ever work on updating foreign languages, despite of such
> a marvellous infrastructure)
No, all I am saying is that's a lot of effort, for not that huge gain.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:17:26PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 03:09 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > Well, that maintenance would e.g. include the localization work I
> > suggested, having a *separate* CVS containing all localized Wine Guides,
> > and having automatically updat
On October 31, 2002 03:11 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Why, the current rate is avalanche-like ;)
>
> I'm growing ever more astonished about the increase in wine-patches per
> day...
Same here. It's quite amazing! But can we sustain the rate for a year?
> But of course you're sorta right, we're stil
On October 31, 2002 03:09 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Well, that maintenance would e.g. include the localization work I
> suggested, having a *separate* CVS containing all localized Wine Guides,
> and having automatically updated docu maintenance web pages
> for every language involved.
But this is
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:58:12PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > For christ's sake, IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE DOCU, THEN *IMPROVE IT*.
>
> Well, that's a good point. And I did a bit, but not nearly as much
> as you.
>
> > I did. (past tense)
>
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:08:07PM +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:24:28AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > So no, I'm not going to make a general public release just yet...
>
> Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> For christ's sake, IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE DOCU, THEN *IMPROVE IT*.
Well, that's a good point. And I did a bit, but not nearly as much
as you.
> I did. (past tense)
> But maybe then it seems like I didn't...
Hey, I've never complained about the
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:07:15PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > > Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
> >
> > Yep...
> >
> > ...next year ! ;)
>
> I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
> lucky
On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
>
> Yep...
>
> ...next year ! ;)
I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
lucky to do a 1.0 'Halloween' release next year :/
--
Dimi.
On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Gee, thanks !
> You know how many man-weeks (err, months ?) I've been putting into it,
> right ?
I was referring to the interface, not the content. In fact, I think
the web-interface makes a disservice to the content. In fact, I am
saying quite t
Em Qui, 2002-10-31 às 16:38, Dimitrie O. Paun escreveu:
> On October 31, 2002 01:21 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
> > unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was on June 25.
>
> Too far away for 0.8, too close for 1.0. Maybe 0.9, if we're
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:19:33PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > You forgot a few things here:
>
> Yes, and no: it was getting late, hand was all funny,
> email was getting too long... :)
>
> > First it doesn't even start because the
On October 31, 2002 01:21 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
> unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was on June 25.
Too far away for 0.8, too close for 1.0. Maybe 0.9, if we're lucky.
--
Dimi.
"Dimitrie O. Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
>
> Hear, hear! BTW, we should move configuration out of documentation/samples
I don't think that would really help
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 12:19, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > You forgot a few things here:
>
> > [...] it doesn't work because the drives are wrong.
>
> Yep. wineinstall?
>
> > Then they don't have the proper registry (winedefault.reg? what'
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:24:28AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> "Dimitrie O. Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
> > Great, it works!
>
> You forgot a few things here:
As for the SuSE wine RPMS:
> First it doesn't even
"Dimitrie O. Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On October 31, 2002 11:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
> > 10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a good date.
>
> Cool! :) Alexandre, when is that?
Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was
On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> You forgot a few things here:
Yes, and no: it was getting late, hand was all funny,
email was getting too long... :)
> First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
Hear, hear! BTW, we should move configuration o
> > 2. People will look for the typical left-side menu:
> > Home
> > About
> > Status
> > Development
> > Download
> > Screenshots
> >
> > *BZZT* We don't have any. 5% will drop off here.
>
> Sorry to say that, but in this mail, *you* were talking *some* crap IMHO
> ;-)
>
>
> From: Alexandre Julliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2002/10/31 Thu AM 11:24:28 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: Wine Devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: So lets say we do it
>
> "Dimitrie O. Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
&
On October 31, 2002 11:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
> 10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a good date.
Cool! :) Alexandre, when is that?
--
Dimi.
El jue, 31 de oct de 2002, a las 02:11, Dimitrie O. Paun escribio:
> That is,
>
> Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my
> 0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare
> next Monday (so we have a good audience),
10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a goo
"Dimitrie O. Paun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
> Great, it works!
You forgot a few things here:
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
they copy one from somewhere, it doesn't work because the dri
On October 31, 2002 10:29 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Sorry to say that, but in this mail, *you* were talking *some* crap IMHO
> ;-)
It's OK, you just missed the point. :P Honestly, you did: it's not ranting,
it's a way to highlight where, and what we need to do. I said that in the
P.S. by the way.
>
> If you want more screenshots, then you just need to go to the AppDB.
> (although we don't mention it yet, so I'll add a subtitle
> "for more screenshots, see AppDB" to the screenshot now)
>
hmm.. IMHO the screenshots should be shown BEFORE the rest of the site shows
up.. screenshots are the mo
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:11:31AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
> That is,
>
> Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my
> 0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare
> next Monday (so we have a good audience), and the news reaches
> Slashdot where a message
That is,
Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my
0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare
next Monday (so we have a good audience), and the news reaches
Slashdot where a message with a link to http://www.winehq.org
is posted, in good CmdrTaco fashion...
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