Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Carlos Lozano
> > > > Why about trying to get this driver working on top of current ntdll ? > > All drivers accesses should pass by kernel calls no ? > > In the perfect world, yes.. but this is not how most copy protections > do it. > > Using the copy protection's driver directly will IMHO not be possible > w

Re: GetCharacterPlacementW() fix

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Phil Krylov wrote: Hello, ChangeLog: Phil Krylov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Added support for returning caret positions from GetCharacterPlacementW(). I'm not sure if this will work for complex scripts, but still it is better than nothing. --- font.c 15 Oct 2003 03:32:31 - 1.

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Mike Hearn
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:19, Boris 'pi' Piwinger wrote: > Hi! > > I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last > Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte > Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) > beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just g

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Boris 'pi' Piwinger
Mike Hearn wrote: >> I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last >> Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte >> Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) >> beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got >> the first shot at 2.0 which will cha

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread robert w hall
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Boris 'pi' Piwinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Mike Hearn wrote: > >> You didn't say what Forte Agent is, so I'll assume you mean this: >> http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php >> ie, a newsreader. > >You are right. I heard that it would be very popular under >

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoff Thorpe wrote: On November 5, 2003 01:00 am, Jonathan Wilson wrote: Basicly as long as our code: A.cant run "copied" safedisk disks ("perfect copies" and "no-cd cracks" aside) and B.cant be modified to run "copied" safedisk disks (e.g. by disabling some parts of the WINE code that performe

[winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Jérôme Bouat
Running Microsoft Office 97 installer works with wine but fails with winedbg. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ winedbg -- /mnt/cdrom/install.exe fixme:console:SetConsoleCtrlHandler (0x40592770,1) - no error checking or testing yet WineDbg starting on pid a Breakpoint 1 at 0x40583000 Invalid address, ca

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Rein Klazes
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:24:06 +, you wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:19, Boris 'pi' Piwinger wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last > > Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte > > Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed)

Re[2]: GetCharacterPlacementW() fix

2003-11-06 Thread Phil Krylov
Hello Shachar, Thursday, November 6, 2003, 12:21:16 PM, you wrote: SS> Phil Krylov wrote: >>Hello, >> SS> Make that into "+ if(lpResults->lpCaretPos && dwFlags&GCP_REORDER) SS> FIXME("Caret positions on complex scripts not implemented");" Added the FIXME message and fixed the patch itself. --

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Mike Hearn
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:28, Rein Klazes wrote: > Well, Ive been using Agent under wine for at least 5 years. My reasons > are not unlike those of others: > > - Don't like changing my news/mail client. Completely rusted stuck. > > - Pan and KNode are two of those examples where an application und

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Rein Klazes
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:51:39 +, you wrote: > > Sounds cool indeed. Perhaps you'd be willing to take a look then? > Yes, I did mail Boris already that I am interested. Rein. -- Rein Klazes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Forte Agent 2.0 (closed beta)

2003-11-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 00:19:56 +0100, "Boris 'pi' Piwinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It is the aim of Forte to have Agent run under Wine. So they Good! I'm anxiously waiting for Agent 2.0, because it has some features I would like to have like multiple accounts and multiple servers. Though I wou

Re: wineoss message queue patch

2003-11-06 Thread Eric Pouech
Robert Reif wrote: Changes message queue from priority queue to standard queue. this is wrong. If you've queued 10s worth of header, your reset request will have to wait 10s before being processed, which is not windows behavior. I'm also surprised if the headers (in case of a reset) are not send b

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Geoff Thorpe wrote: [snip] subject to trivial circumvention. I can't see how this can be done without requiring a DMCA violation in Wine, the O/S kernel, or requiring the copying of a closed-source driver that *itself* is irreplacable (choosing to load it from Wine and say "don't edit this Win

Help with forwarding .spec and DLL overrides for a new DLL

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi list, I'm having trouble with my unicows.dll implementation. I can trace this problem down to forwarding entries not working, but I can't understand why. I am attaching the diffs for my current unicows patch (not working though it is). I'm trying to run it with a program I wrote. This progra

Help with forwarding .spec and DLL overrides for a new DLL

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi list, I'm having trouble with my unicows.dll implementation. I can trace this problem down to forwarding entries not working, but I can't understand why. I am attaching the diffs for my current unicows patch (not working though it is). I'm trying to run it with a program I wrote. This program i

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't get it. As far as I understand, so long as the code in the > Wine archives does not allow running copied discs, we are not > violating the DMCA. If someone else takes Wine code and modifies it, > that's where the DMCA violation happens. The DM

Re: Help with forwarding .spec and DLL overrides for a new DLL

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
One more point. You can download the Windows program used to check this (source+exec) from http://shemesh.biz/wine. Shachar Shemesh wrote: The second had to do with the forwarding call. I generated (using a small perl script) the spec file for the DLL. It forwards all Unicode calls to the releva

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't get it. As far as I understand, so long as the code in the Wine archives does not allow running copied discs, we are not violating the DMCA. If someone else takes Wine code and modifies it, that's where the DMCA viol

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the code in Wine still doesn't allow unprotected CDs from running, > there can be no problem. No, it's not that simple. By providing a replacement driver, you are circumventing a technical measure controlling access to the work. The fact is that wi

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Eric Pouech
Jérôme Bouat wrote: Running Microsoft Office 97 installer works with wine but fails with winedbg. which wine version are you using ? A+ -- Eric Pouech

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Jérôme Bouat
CVS (~10 houres ago) Le jeu 06/11/2003 à 22:00, Eric Pouech a écrit : > Jérôme Bouat wrote: > > Running Microsoft Office 97 installer works with wine but fails with > > winedbg. > which wine version are you using ? > A+

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Eric Pouech
Jérôme Bouat wrote: CVS (~10 houres ago) then, the installer tries to open a console and fails... please check that you should have some fixed size X11 fonts installed. This is need for the console to run if you do, and it doesn't work, could you send me the trace generated by wineconsole --debu

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Geoff Thorpe
Hi there, On November 6, 2003 02:18 pm, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Alexandre Julliard wrote: > >So the question is whether the code in question is "circumventing" the > >protection or not. > > If the code in Wine still doesn't allow unprotected CDs from running, > there can be no problem. > > >I thi

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Jérôme Bouat
The problem is that it worked the first time I ran this installer. Anyway, where can I check for fixed size X11 fonts ? Le jeu 06/11/2003 à 22:33, Eric Pouech a écrit : > Jérôme Bouat wrote: > > CVS (~10 houres ago) > then, the installer tries to open a console and fails... > > please check that

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Eric Pouech
Jérôme Bouat wrote: The problem is that it worked the first time I ran this installer. behavior also depends on whether or not you redirected the input. Some recent changes in the freetype handling code may have broken things too. Anyway, where can I check for fixed size X11 fonts ? xlsfonts A+ --

Re: [winedbg] err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2003-11-06 Thread Jérôme Bouat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ xlsfonts |grep -i fixed|wc -l 277 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ Thus I ran wineconsole as you advised. I saw some non organized chars on my virtual console (as if no line return were used). Here is the trace: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ wineconsole --debugmsg +wineconsole win

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Ann and Jason Edmeades
[Ever had the feeling you regret asking a question...] Possibly another question for Alexander then - Realistically do you believe that we can ever support copy protection, and if so how? If we can work out how to load the driver in question (which remember is safedisk specific, there's others) t

Re: wineoss message queue patch

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Reif
There are two queues in an audio process, a queue between the application and the audio thread which contains both commands and headers and a header queue internal to the audio thread. The current implementation places commands before headers in the between thread queue. This is wrong. For examp

tools/winapi/msvcmaker trouble

2003-11-06 Thread Rolf Kalbermatter
I tried to create the project files to compile some of the wine sources in MSVC and had to find out that this tool is apparently broken. Unfortunately I understand nothing about Pearl so fixing this is completely beyond my capabilities. These are the error messages I receive: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: tools/winapi/msvcmaker trouble

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Edwards
I have been having trouble with it but on Windows. I would really like to have it work on Windows as I dont always have access to a running linux system. Cygwin, Active Perl and Msys perl all give this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /e/source/winehq/wine $ tools/winapi/msvcmaker Global symbol "$wine_di

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On Thursday 06 November 2003 03:31 pm, Geoff Thorpe wrote: > War crime tribunals, environmental protection treaties, privacy > legislation, ... the ability to let chilling effects meet little or no > significant organised obstacle has become the trademark of a certain > breed of "freedom-loving" pe

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Alexandre Julliard
"Ann and Jason Edmeades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Ever had the feeling you regret asking a question...] > > Possibly another question for Alexander then - Realistically do you believe > that we can ever support copy protection, and if so how? I definitely think we can support it yes. It's j

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>I don't get it. As far as I understand, so long as the code in the Wine >archives does not allow running copied discs, we are not violating the >DMCA. If someone else takes Wine code and modifies it, that's where the >DMCA violation happens. Right, I think a lot of people would be happy to host

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>In the mean time, (and as long as people in the US are involved in Wine,) >we're stuck with them. Not is we publish (Host) wine outside the US.

Re: copy protection - was: Re: Is it time for playing games on WINE?

2003-11-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>"the Copyright Office ruled that the DMCA does not block software >developers from using reverse engineering to circumvent digital >protection of copyright material if they do so to achieve >interoperability with an independently created computer program." So some people in the US do believe in

scheduler/pthread.c breakage (and fix)

2003-11-06 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
Revision 1.47 of scheduler/pthread.c date: 2003/11/05 23:31:11; author: julliard; state: Exp; lines: +184 -2 Added wine_pthread_create_thread and wine_pthread_exit_thread to the pthread support, and removed the corresponding SYSDEPS functions. Moved stack allocation for new threads to w

directx

2003-11-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
I don't know if anybody cares about this, but you can run at least 2 directx games at the same time on windows, just thought I'd let you know.

Re: [wineinstall] make nice value

2003-11-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
This depends, it can go from 15-20 minutes to over 4 hours. A company in Israel has built a 8000 Ghz (Not a typo, it's Ghz) processor, that may take it down to a few seconds.

Question: Is secdrv.sys a "Protection Mechanisim"

2003-11-06 Thread Jonathan Wilson
My argument is that it is not a "Protection Machanisim" as defined by the DMCA. IANAL but from reading the DMCA information on various places (including the act itself), the folowing is true: 1.an Access Control Measure is something that prevents unauthorized access to a Copyrighted work. 2.Ther

wine-20031016/include/msvcrt/limits.h

2003-11-06 Thread Ralf Juengling
To get rid of a gcc compiler warning... (cf. http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2001-10/msg00764.html) --- wine-20031016/include/msvcrt/limits.h 2003-09-01 17:58:21.0 -0700 +++ /local/include/wine/msvcrt/limits.h 2003-11-06 17:58:59.0 -0800 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ #define __WINE_LIMITS_

Re: [wineinstall] make nice value

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: This depends, it can go from 15-20 minutes to over 4 hours. A company in Israel has built a 8000 Ghz (Not a typo, it's Ghz) processor, that may take it down to a few seconds. I think you just pointed to the local technology press being negligent to a degree never b

Re: Question: Is secdrv.sys a "Protection Mechanisim"

2003-11-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Jonathan Wilson wrote: 3.neither of 1 or 2 is true and therefore the clone of secdrv.sys is not a DMCA violation and can go into the WINE tree. 4. Neither 1 nor 2 are true in the strict sense of the word, but wer'e not sure that safedisk's manufacturer will think the same. So the code still ca