Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tom Wickline wrote: On 5/7/05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is actually a very good point in favor of not charging money at all. If you charge money, you create obligation. That's the way the legal system works. If you do not, you can easily delist any known LGPL offender.

Unknown stab type in crashes

2005-05-09 Thread James Hawkins
Hey, Whenever wine crashes, I get a long stream of err:dbghelp_stabs:stabs_parse Unknown stab type 0x2e err:dbghelp_stabs:stabs_parse Unknown stab type 0x4e err:dbghelp_stabs:stabs_parse Unknown stab type 0x2e err:dbghelp_stabs:stabs_parse Unknown stab type 0x4e err:dbghelp_stabs:stabs_parse Unk

Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

2005-05-09 Thread Chris Morgan
If you would like to submit a version please do so. In your case you submitted an entire application that was a duplicate, and when I rejected it the version submission implicitly created when submitting an application was also deleted. If there was a particular place that was confusing please

[Fwd: Re: Commercial support]

2005-05-09 Thread StartCom Ltd.
 Or maybe just because of it, there is a need for commercial support, or somebody might need that support. If it would be running, by just clicking on the executable, no support is really needed, at least not for standard applications. IBM does very well know the existents of Wine (they even a

Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

2005-05-09 Thread David F. Colwell
Hiji wrote: --- "David F. Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hiji et al, Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB yet they returned... Submitted version rejected --- The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been rejected.Thi

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
Paul Millar wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 16:11, you wrote: Paul van Schayck wrote: Where would this list be? As of now there is no list of applications we try to keep working with every released snapshot. [...] Go to the Wine HQ site and click on applications database. I think Paul wanted to know

Re: dlls/opengl32: fix WGL_ACCELERATION_ARB queries from applications

2005-05-09 Thread Aric Cyr
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 09:29:06PM +0200, Raphael wrote: > On Monday 09 May 2005 11:09, Aric Cyr wrote: > > Just a small patch to Raphael's recent CVS commit which added a much > > better wglChoosePixelFormatARB() and friends. This patch fixes the > > return values that an application will recieve

Re: Make test status - latest CVS

2005-05-09 Thread Juan Lang
--- Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I don't see the same thing here. Could you send me a heap trace? > > > Aw, man! You were sitting right behind me when that happened. Couldn't > you have taken my laptop and debugged it on the spot then? :-) I wanted to have a chance to run it, re

Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

2005-05-09 Thread Hiji
--- "David F. Colwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hiji et al, > > Couldn't find Half-Life or Counter-Strike in the DB > yet they returned... > > Submitted version rejected > --- > The version you submitted ( 1.0.0.0) has been > rejected.This

Re: APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

2005-05-09 Thread Chris Morgan
I plugged 'half-life' into the search box and got: http://appdb.winehq.org/search.php?q=half-life Looks like its working here. What did you search for? I just added 'halflife' as a keyword to the half-life application so searching for 'halflife' also returns the appropriate results. Chris

Re: UT2003 regression, Windowing problem

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 09 May 2005 22:43:49 +0100, Ann and Jason Edmeades wrote: > So should there have been an action as a result of the WM_PAINT, and is it > valid for it not to occur (ie is wine overdoing the assumption on redrawing) Notes has the same problem. Last time I talked to The Director about it he s

APPDB: Half-Life and Counter-Strike with WINE

2005-05-09 Thread Hiji
Any ideas? (I'm forwarding the message, so, it defaults to showing below my message. Sorry!) :( Note: forwarded message attached. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/lea

Re: Window management - what to do next?

2005-05-09 Thread Jules Richardson
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 15:25 -0600, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Ok, I've been digging this stuff for more then a week now. And I still don't > have even a partial understanding of what's going on in there. :-) Is there some kind of documentation somewhere as to how everything fits together - or even

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Tom Wickline
On 5/7/05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is actually a very good point in favor of not charging money at > all. If you charge money, you create obligation. That's the way the > legal system works. If you do not, you can easily delist any known LGPL > offender. It could be

UT2003 regression, Windowing problem

2005-05-09 Thread Ann and Jason Edmeades
Hi all, I'm trying to track down a regression which causes UT2003 (and UT2004 / Unreal2 apparently) to fail, and am getting stuck at the windowing level so would appreciate any thoughts as to possible causes. (And no, I haven't tried to work out what regressed it... Why spoil my fun!) Basically

[Fwd: [Bug 2931] Diablo 2 video test fails]

2005-05-09 Thread Dustin Navea
Bug 2931 is a regression, and we have found the patch which causes it. It is attached to the bug, and I have requested a link to the commit email, so that the appropriate person can know to take a look. Thanks Dustin Original Message Subject: [Bug 2931] Diablo 2 video test fail

Window management - what to do next?

2005-05-09 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ok, I've been digging this stuff for more then a week now. And I still don't have even a partial understanding of what's going on in there. If someone please explain me these: 1. Where wine stops and passing over to X/window manager? I'm most interested in handling focus changes, minimize/maximiz

Re: [OpenGL] Fwd: Re: Regression in Half life

2005-05-09 Thread Jesse Allen
On 5/9/05, Raphael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > while Waiting for a better idea: > > Changelog: > - fix x11drv/ChoosePixelFormat to choose 24 bpp as 32 bpp for depth buffers > (needed as many X11 drivers only support 24bpp) > > Regards, > Raphael > Are there any drivers that don't have 24

Re: Regression in start wars jedi knight: jedi academy

2005-05-09 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Montag, 9. Mai 2005 19:27 schrieb Raphael: > On Monday 09 May 2005 15:34, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > > > Strange behavior to see alocations problems after my patch :( > > > > > > can you try to edit dlls/opengl32/wgl.c > > > > > > and change internal_glGetString to something like (see below) to tr

Re: dlls/opengl32: fix WGL_ACCELERATION_ARB queries from applications

2005-05-09 Thread Raphael
On Monday 09 May 2005 11:09, Aric Cyr wrote: > Just a small patch to Raphael's recent CVS commit which added a much > better wglChoosePixelFormatARB() and friends. This patch fixes the > return values that an application will recieve when it queries the > WGL_ACCELERATION_ARB pixel format attribut

Re: Regression in start wars jedi knight: jedi academy

2005-05-09 Thread Raphael
On Monday 09 May 2005 15:34, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > > Strange behavior to see alocations problems after my patch :( > > > > can you try to edit dlls/opengl32/wgl.c > > > > and change internal_glGetString to something like (see below) to try > > > > const GLubyte * internal_glGetString(GLenum name

Re: Wiki stuff

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 09 May 2005 09:36:51 +0200, peter wrote: > Could you post a link to a page that display this issue? Seeing as it's fixed now, that wouldn't be possible. It's not a problem. thanks -mike

Initial popup window and window manager

2005-05-09 Thread Jose Alonso
I have a problem with an application that creates a initial popup window and starts another application. The window for the second application is completely covered by the initial popup window. Investigating the problem, I found that the popup window is not managed by the window manager and no oth

Re: Bug 2131 - 16-bit support?

2005-05-09 Thread Lionel Ulmer
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 05:06:31PM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote: > People are often migrating to Linux PRECISELY BECAUSE newer Windows versions > are no alternative to them any more (old machines with insufficient > performance/compatibility with newer Windows versions). > And we better make sure we s

Re: [?? Probable Spam] notepad: add .LOG feature

2005-05-09 Thread Kevin Koltzau
I verified on XP, it is case sensitive On Monday 09 May 2005 03:37 am, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > > + /* If the file starts with .LOG, add a time/date at the end and set > > cursor after > > + * See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260563 > > + */ > > + if (GetWindowTextW(Globals.hEdit, log, siz

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Paul Millar
On Monday 09 May 2005 16:11, you wrote: > Paul van Schayck wrote: > > Where would this list be? As of now there is no list of applications > > we try to keep working with every released snapshot. [...] > > Go to the Wine HQ site and click on applications database. I think Paul wanted to know the

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Holly Bostick
gslink schreef: > All that you say is quite true but I still think that the main enemy of > Wine is Microsoft. Microsoft will eventually attempt to destroy Wine > because only they are threatened by it. There was an LGPL change true > but did that change stop anyone from stealing Wine? I seriou

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
Paul van Schayck wrote: On 5/9/05, gslink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recently took the list of applications from headquarters that are listed as running properly and found that many of these are available for little cost. I bought a few and tried to run them. Not a one ran as is from the box.

qcap

2005-05-09 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
this is my qcap dll in its current state, because i dont have much time in the next couple of weeks I' d thought I'd post it, perhaps someone can make it work with the new qcap dll implementation, what i have here is a pretty much complete version of qcap + a near complete version of V4l implem

Re: Bug 2131 - 16-bit support?

2005-05-09 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Dustin Navea wrote: > Andreas Mohr wrote: > >Do we want to throw out the baby with the bath water? > >In this case it's an obvious conflict between 16bit and 32bit, and note > >that > >it's even with a very rarely used DLL, thus it's easy to give up o

Re: Wiki stuff

2005-05-09 Thread peter
Could you post a link to a page that display this issue? I just looked at http://wiki.winehq.org/InstallShield and it was fine on opera 8 but I did not have time to check to see how you had defined May be worth keeping a non-linked version of a page to check this behaviour. 8) On Mon, 09 May

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Paul van Schayck
On 5/9/05, gslink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently took the list of applications from headquarters that are > listed as running properly and found that many of these are available > for little cost. I bought a few and tried to run them. Not a one ran > as is from the box. I was able to ge

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 09 May 2005 15:04:40 +0200, Fabian Cenedese wrote: > I wonder though: if stack-based SEH is patented by Borland, does it mean > that "VC++ and most other PC compilers" pay to Borland? The GNU EH ABI is table-based not stack based, I guess that's one reason why (it's also faster). thanks -

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
I recently took the list of applications from headquarters that are listed as running properly and found that many of these are available for little cost. I bought a few and tried to run them. Not a one ran as is from the box. I was able to get all of them to run with some trouble. One big

Re: winecfg: Add wine configuration tab

2005-05-09 Thread Alexandre Julliard
James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This seemed to get pretty good support in wine-devel. The rest of the > implementation will follow soon. You really only want the dir symlink and hidden file options, and these should most likely be under the Drives tab. It doesn't make sense to let us

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
Andreas Mohr wrote: Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:19:31AM -0400, gslink wrote: I wouldn't worry about anyone but Microsoft stealing Wine. In order to develop Wine you must be an expert C++ programmer. That requires an enormous amount of work and thieves are usually lazy. Maybe you wouldn't wor

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Holly Bostick
gslink schreef: > I wonder if it isn't a little early to consider the entire issue of > commercial support. Most programs do not run under Wine without some > sort of setup and things written to XP standards don't run at all. Not (really) to butt in here, especially since I have never used XP and

Re: Regression in start wars jedi knight: jedi academy

2005-05-09 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Montag, 9. Mai 2005 11:24 schrieb Mike Hearn: > On Sun, 08 May 2005 16:26:21 +, Stefan DÃsinger wrote: > > The problematic commit is > > http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-cvs/2005/04/0308.html, it's not the > > same problem as with Half-life. The crash happens in ntdll in > > HEAP_CreateF

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Fabian Cenedese
>> Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: >> >Because it's patented by Borland? >> >> Do you have any reference to the patent? It looks to me like it is easy >> to by-pass by using different key words and than the user can Just >> define them to the MS ones. > >US Patent #5,628,016, Kukol, May 6, 1997. And you

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On Monday 09 May 2005 10:00, Boaz Harrosh wrote: > >"Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Why doesnt someone just implement the microsoft SEH keywords and > >> extentions into GCC like it should be? > > Do you have any knowledge of GCC, to be able to do it, or help me do it? The code ex

Re: Wiki stuff

2005-05-09 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 09:36 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could you post a link to a page that display this issue? > > I just looked at http://wiki.winehq.org/InstallShield and it was fine on > opera 8 but I did not have time to check to see how you had defined Not really, I've told you th

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On Monday 09 May 2005 11:29, Mike Hearn wrote: > On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:41:46 +, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > > As for the portability issue, why not an autoconf test? Perhaps the > > answer is "because there are still people foolish enough to run distro's > > other than Gentoo." If so, then wh

Re: Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:19:31AM -0400, gslink wrote: > I wouldn't worry about anyone but Microsoft stealing Wine. In order to > develop Wine you must be an expert C++ programmer. That requires an > enormous amount of work and thieves are usually lazy. Maybe you wouldn't worry, but I'd b

Re: Regression in Half life

2005-05-09 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Montag, 9. Mai 2005 00:34 schrieb Raphael: > On Saturday 07 May 2005 12:41, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > > > >I switched to the Xorg radeon driver which has 16 bpp support(the 2nd > > > > column shows 16 now), and made sure that hl runs with 16bpp, but the > > > > error still occurs. > > > > > > Yes

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:41:46 +, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > As for the portability issue, why not an autoconf test? Perhaps the answer > is > "because there are still people foolish enough to run distro's other than > Gentoo." If so, then why not an autoconf test and a run-time test? Hurra

Re: Regression in start wars jedi knight: jedi academy

2005-05-09 Thread Stefan Dösinger
> > Strange behavior to see alocations problems after my patch :( > > can you try to edit dlls/opengl32/wgl.c > > and change internal_glGetString to something like (see below) to try > > const GLubyte * internal_glGetString(GLenum name) { >return glGetString(name); > } Yes, that fixes the probl

Re: Regression in start wars jedi knight: jedi academy

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Sun, 08 May 2005 16:26:21 +, Stefan DÃsinger wrote: > The problematic commit is > http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-cvs/2005/04/0308.html, it's not the same > problem as with Half-life. The crash happens in ntdll in > HEAP_CreateFreeBlock. Try doing a +heap trace. That switches on ext

Re: Assertion fails in riched20; relay debug segfaults

2005-05-09 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 09 May 2005 21:44:58 +1200, Adrian Harvey wrote: > If I try to GDB wine I get all sorts of ugly errors Try an strace in "follow forks mode". Does that help? thanks -mike

Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
I wouldn't worry about anyone but Microsoft stealing Wine. In order to develop Wine you must be an expert C++ programmer. That requires an enormous amount of work and thieves are usually lazy. A new teacher came to the master. "I have developed some new techniques that make teaching much bet

Commercial support

2005-05-09 Thread gslink
I wonder if it isn't a little early to consider the entire issue of commercial support. Most programs do not run under Wine without some sort of setup and things written to XP standards don't run at all. The project hasn't gotten to the 1.0 level yet. The project is coming along very well an

Re: Assertion fails in riched20; relay debug segfaults

2005-05-09 Thread Dustin Navea
Adrian Harvey wrote: This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu"...Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/tls/libthread_db.so.1". I may be getting hung up on 64-bits for nothing, but is it possible for a 64-bit debugger (using 64-bit libs) to properly debug a 32-bit binary? Dustin

Re: Assertion fails in riched20; relay debug segfaults

2005-05-09 Thread Adrian Harvey
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 17:41 -0400, Vincent BÃron wrote: [snip] > Relay shouldn't segfault, and it's still supported. I guess Adrian (if > nobody else can reproduce) will need to add further traces or go through > it with a debugger. > > Vincent If I try to GDB wine I get all sorts of ugly errors

Re: Assertion fails in riched20; relay debug segfaults

2005-05-09 Thread Adrian Harvey
On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 15:53 -0500, Dustin Navea wrote: > Adrian Harvey wrote: > > Thanks, Dustin, that sorts the riched problem. Any ideas as to why the > > relay trace segfaults though? That was the bit I thought was > > interesting... I have now found it will segfault even if wine is not > > g

Re: ERROR_NOT_READY (21) in ne_module.c

2005-05-09 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Felix Nawothnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since bug 2131 was closed I'll paste it here again: > > ne_module.c explicitly sets errorcode 21 (ERROR_NOT_READY) when > ( >LoadLibraryA()ing the owner of a 16bit dll failed > or >the search for the 16bit dll returned a real (.so) >dll an

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Boaz Harrosh
"Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why doesnt someone just implement the microsoft SEH keywords and extentions into GCC like it should be? Do you have any knowledge of GCC, to be able to do it, or help me do it? Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: Because it's patented by Borland? Do you

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Jonathan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why doesnt someone just implement the microsoft SEH keywords and extentions > into GCC like it should be? Because it's patented by Borland? > Same with anything else microsoft that WINE or ReactOS needs (e.g. > _declspec(thread) support) We can e

Re: Quicken/CreateCompatibleBitmap issue revisited

2005-05-09 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Carl Sopchak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Which I guess brings up another point... dlls/gdi/bitmap.c's > CreateCompatibleBitmap shows the aforementioned fixme message if the width or > height exceeds 0x1, and no bitmap is returned. This seems wrong to me on > three counts: (1) MSDN states

Re: [?? Probable Spam] notepad: add .LOG feature

2005-05-09 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Kevin Koltzau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260563 > > Changelog > Handle notepad log feature > + /* If the file starts with .LOG, add a time/date at the end and set cursor > after > + * See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260563 > + */ > + if (GetWind

Re: Revisiting exceptions

2005-05-09 Thread Jonathan Wilson
Why doesnt someone just implement the microsoft SEH keywords and extentions into GCC like it should be? Same with anything else microsoft that WINE or ReactOS needs (e.g. _declspec(thread) support)