MSYS touch.exe timestamp resolution issue on Wine-1.6

2013-10-12 Thread Alan W. Irwin
:58.40800 -0700 touch2.test So I think this implies the MSYS touch.exe command is writing high-resolution (i.e., millisecond) time stamps, and it is only reading that high-resolution time stamp that seems to be an issue for MSYS on Wine. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-05 Thread Alan W. Irwin
script results can be achieved. Of course, a clean result from the postinstall stage of setup.exe would only be the first step, but that step should give solid footing for finding and fixing the rest of the Cygwin on Wine bugs. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
it is still very much smaller than the list of software builds that are included in the Cygwin distribution. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-07-01 18:13+0200 Peter Rosin wrote: On 2013-06-29 18:33, Alan W. Irwin wrote: Those have been mentioned before here, and I have looked at them. Cygwin is a very large collection of software so the number of bugs that are reported does not seem excessive to me, and for my personal needs

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-07-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-07-01 19:58+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... I hope your negative attitude toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such developers.  After all, even though the Windows GNU toolchain code bases have diverged between

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-29 11:57+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... The Mingw GNU toolchain works wells under wine. The cygwin GNU toolchain don't, the last time I checked. That may be true, but the best way to make that point about

Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-27 09:39-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: [...]I asked Arjen Markus, a PLplot colleague of mine with Cygwin contacts, to try and get the debugging process started with the Cygwin developers. The response http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-06/msg00666.html to his post looks quite promising

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-28 22:07+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Thu, 27/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: [...]I asked Arjen Markus, a PLplot colleague of mine with Cygwin contacts, to try and get the debugging process started with the Cygwin developers.  The response http

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-28 23:13+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... But I _know_ the MSYS version of cat works fine on recent Wine just like the rest of the GNU toolchain used for building software so if the MSYS and Cygwin GNU toolchain code

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-28 22:37+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: ... However, because of the Cygwin fork bug, Cygwin on Wine has largely been untested for the last three years so this could be a good opportunity to do such testing

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-27 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-26 18:14-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: Note in retrospect I realized that this period leading up to the release of Wine-1.6.0 has been a lousy time to ask wine developers with Cygwin expertise to take on the additional distraction of getting the debugging process for bug 24018 started

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-26 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-26 23:43+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Tue, 25/6/13, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: snipped I currently have no experience with Cygwin and my only real interest in Cygwin on Wine is it theoretically provides an alternative build platform to my present successful

Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

2013-06-25 Thread Alan W. Irwin
that the issue is a Cygwin regression (assuming investigation of older Cygwin versions with Turkin's test supports that conclusion). Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca

Re: Possible wine bug concerning the case of the DbgHelp.h header filename

2013-06-12 Thread Alan W. Irwin
, but also my thanks to you guys for clarifying the issue. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state

Possible wine bug concerning the case of the DbgHelp.h header filename

2013-06-11 Thread Alan W. Irwin
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How to stop gecko and mono popups while git bisecting?

2013-06-03 Thread Alan W. Irwin
the WINEPREFIX directory for the first time, is there a way to configure wine or run wineconsole so those popups that require me answering a question can be eliminated? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University

Re: [wine-devel] Re: How to stop gecko and mono popups while git bisecting?

2013-06-03 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-06-04 00:12+0200 André Hentschel wrote: Or you create a wineprefix after you removed it, but without a valid display set: DISPLAY=none wine wineboot Perfect. That was just what I needed for my git bisect test script. Thanks, André! Alan __ Alan W. Irwin

Regression for bash.exe redirection of ctest.exe for wine-1.5.30 compared to wine-1.5.19

2013-05-22 Thread Alan W. Irwin
than something you could run unattended) from a Linux bash script so I would need advice about that. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations

Re: Regression for bash.exe redirection of ctest.exe for wine-1.5.30 compared to wine-1.5.19

2013-05-22 Thread Alan W. Irwin
the offending commit to the list tomorrow if git-bisect works as advertised. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state

Re: [wine-devel] Troubles configuring and building wine-1.5.30 on Debian wheezy

2013-05-21 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-05-20 20:24-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: [...]For example: wine@raven wine64 wine64: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I fixed this 1.5.30 issue by applying the patch at http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git

Re: [wine-devel] Troubles configuring and building wine-1.5.30 on Debian wheezy

2013-05-21 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-05-21 11:08+0200 Frédéric Delanoy wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.cawrote: Hugh McMaster's reply was already a help, but I need more comments please. Maybe http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit could help? The idea there to install *.so

Re: [wine-devel] Troubles configuring and building wine-1.5.30 on Debian wheezy

2013-05-21 Thread Alan W. Irwin
)? For example, are they worth some extraordinary measures such as downloading the binary i386 -dev package and extracting the static 32-bit versions separately from that package? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics

Re: [wine-devel] Troubles configuring and building wine-1.5.30 on Debian wheezy

2013-05-21 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2013-05-21 18:27-0700 Austin English wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: Can somebody advise me about the importance (or not) of the remaining two missing 32-bit libraries (libdbus and gstreamer)? For example, are they worth some

Troubles configuring and building wine-1.5.30 on Debian wheezy

2013-05-20 Thread Alan W. Irwin
(as on Debian wheezy) where 32-bit and 64-bit libfreetype packages cannot be installed simultaneously. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [SOLVED] wine-1.5.20 regression compared to 1.5.19 and previous; MinGW/gcc 4.7.0 segfaults under wineconsole

2013-01-02 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2012-12-28 10:22-0800 Alan W. Irwin wrote: [...Let's] leave it like this. Wine-1.5.20 has introduced an obvious regression for an important Windows app (the MinGW gcc compiler for Windows) that has been working for years for prior Wine versions. Grant communicated to me off list that he

Re: wine-1.5.20 reversion compared to 1.5.19 and previous; MinGW/gcc 4.7.0 segfaults under wineconsole

2012-12-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2012-12-28 10:44+0100 Frédéric Delanoy wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: On 2012-12-23 21:25-0600 Austin English wrote: On Dec 23, 2012 7:22 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: The subject line pretty much says it all

Re: wine-1.5.20 regression compared to 1.5.19 and previous; MinGW/gcc 4.7.0 segfaults under wineconsole

2012-12-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
Windows app (the MinGW gcc compiler for Windows) that has been working for years for prior Wine versions. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations

wine-1.5.20 reversion compared to 1.5.19 and previous; MinGW/gcc 4.7.0 segfaults under wineconsole

2012-12-23 Thread Alan W. Irwin
be happy to supply more details if there is any difficulty replicating this reversion. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS

Re: wine-1.5.20 reversion compared to 1.5.19 and previous; MinGW/gcc 4.7.0 segfaults under wineconsole

2012-12-23 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2012-12-23 21:25-0600 Austin English wrote: On Dec 23, 2012 7:22 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: The subject line pretty much says it all. Running MinGW/gcc under wineconsole for any simple test programme should demonstrate the issue for wine-1.5.20 which is not present

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Mono?!?

2012-06-02 Thread Alan W. Irwin
like mono for the reasons that have just been discussed so please make it totally straightforward for them to avoid it with a configure option. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Severe startup latencies for Windows applications run under wine

2011-09-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
to copy 500kB sounds really bad. Have you opened a bug report to keep track of your results? If so, I would like to add my own timing results there. If not, shall I open a bug report for my timing results that you can add to? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research

Re: [wine-devel] re: [SOLVED] [PATCH]Where is the best place to report a fscanf bug found under wine-1.3.27?

2011-09-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2011-08-30 13:25-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: On 2011-08-30 08:33-0700 Dan Kegel wrote: Today I discovered .. that the scanf family of functions was introducing float (32-bit floating-point) noise into double (64-bit floating-point) results. I see it here, too: $ sudo apt-get install

Severe startup latencies for Windows applications run under wine

2011-09-01 Thread Alan W. Irwin
. So I have changed the subject line appropriately. Now, if someone could just figure out what the wine bottleneck is that is causing these severe start-up latencies for Windows applications Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department

re: [SOLVED] [PATCH]Where is the best place to report a fscanf bug found under wine-1.3.27?

2011-08-30 Thread Alan W. Irwin
for wine-1.3.27 works in that much more complicated case as well. Best wishes, and thanks again for the hints. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Severe regression in wine startup latencies

2011-08-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2011-08-29 07:56+1000 Ben Peddell wrote: On 29/08/2011 2:37 AM, Alan W. Irwin wrote: bash.exe-3.1$ time /z/home/wine/newstart1/MinGW/msys/1.0/bin/echo.exe hello hello real0m0.503s user0m0.080s sys 0m0.020s Also, I tried time (x; x; x; x; x; x; x; x; x; x), where x represents

Where is the best place to report a fscanf bug found under wine-1.3.27?

2011-08-29 Thread Alan W. Irwin
would like to get rid of to see if there are any other remaining generic Windows issues in the software. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations

Re: Severe regression in wine startup latencies

2011-08-28 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2011-08-27 18:11-0700 Daniel Verkamp wrote: On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: [...] bash.exe-3.1$ which echo /z/home/wine/newstart1/MinGW/msys/1.0/bin/echo.exe bash.exe-3.1$ time echo hello hello real    0m0.000s user    0m0.000s sys

Severe regression in wine startup latencies

2011-08-27 Thread Alan W. Irwin
__ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net

Re: [wine-devel] Re: The Windows version of the octave --version command exposes an uncommon X network transparency issue for wine

2010-12-21 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-12-21 14:33+0100 André Hentschel wrote: Am 21.12.2010 00:42, schrieb Alan W. Irwin: This just-encountered network-transparency trouble occurred for the Windows version of octave, and the reason I am bringing it up here is to find out if this is a known issue or a new bug that I should

The Windows version of the octave --version command exposes an uncommon X network transparency issue for wine

2010-12-20 Thread Alan W. Irwin
issues still remaining for some small subset of the display requests translated into X by wine or is this a new X network transparency bug for wine that I should report? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy

wine-1.3.8 regression for the curses backend to wineconsole

2010-12-10 Thread Alan W. Irwin
(wide character support) ii ncurses-base 5.7+20100313-4 basic terminal type definitions ii ncurses-bin 5.7+20100313-4 terminal-related programs and man pages Alan __ Alan W. Irwin

Re: [wine-devel] wine-1.3.8 regression for the curses backend to wineconsole

2010-12-10 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-12-10 15:04-0800 Alan W. Irwin wrote: I should have added that the configure step for my wine-1.3.8 build used no options other than --prefix. That means I built the 32-bit version of wine-1.3.8 on my 64-bit (amd64) Intel box as confirmed by softw...@raven file ~/wine/install/bin/wine

Re: wine-1.3.8 regression for the curses backend to wineconsole

2010-12-10 Thread Alan W. Irwin
know whether the above remark about not discussing bugs here is one person's opinion or the consensus culture here. I am willing to go along with whatever that consensus is. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy

re: [SOLVED] Cannot install Python on wine

2010-12-07 Thread Alan W. Irwin
/index.php/Wine_MSI. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net

Cannot install Python on wine

2010-12-06 Thread Alan W. Irwin
with the proper procedure for installing Python under wine would be much appreciated. Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation

Re: Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-19 Thread Alan W. Irwin
is fundamentally different between our two software platforms or wine configurations that causes this order of magnitude difference in startup latency on similar hardware? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University

Re: Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-19 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-20 11:16+1000 Jeff Zaroyko wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: Thanks very much Jeff, for providing some independent timing numbers for startup latency which are an order of magnitude (!) smaller than mine. So what is different

Re: The __WINE__ macro does not identify the Wine platform

2010-06-18 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-18 11:44+0200 Alexandre Julliard wrote: Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca writes: Note also, my whole argument is based on the assumption that some standard means already exists for telling compilers running on Wine to #define __WINE__ at run time. However, if such standard

Re: Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-18 Thread Alan W. Irwin
are two orders of magnitude lower) so I don't think this strict same box requirement is necessary so long as the boxes are roughly the same (mine is a garden-variety dual-core Intel 2.4 GHz). Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics

Re: The __WINE__ macro does not identify the Wine platform

2010-06-18 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-18 19:26+0200 Roderick Colenbrander wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Alan W. Irwin Which leads to a Wine newbie question.  What is the best way to detect the Wine platform at run time? Doing so

Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
brute-force way to reduce command startup latency? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation

The __WINE__ macro does not identify the Wine platform

2010-06-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
older wine-devel discussion, and I understand the CMake developers have an immediate use for such a macro within the CMake code itself. Is the lack of a macro to identify the wine platform a bug I should report or am I missing something? Alan __ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical

Re: The __WINE__ macro does not identify the Wine platform

2010-06-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-17 17:13-0400 Mike Kaplinskiy wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Alan W. Irwin ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca wrote: According to some old discussion (http://www.mail-archive.com/wine-de...@winehq.com/msg15669.html) on wine-devel it appears that __WINE__ was going to be the macro

Re: Speed/latency issues for development in a Wine environment

2010-06-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-17 17:07-0400 Mike Kaplinskiy wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Alan W. Irwin The issue is that Wine builds of software take roughly a factor of 5 longer than the equivalent Linux builds.  This issue appears to be caused mostly by command startup latency.  [...] I find

Re: The __WINE__ macro does not identify the Wine platform

2010-06-17 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2010-06-18 01:23+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: Alan W. Irwin wrote: Thus, is there not some standard means that could be used for wine to tell the various MinGW compilers built on Microsoft Windows but run under wine to always #define __WINE__? I am quite sure AJ will object to any