Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-07-01 20:08-0700 Austin English wrote: In other words, while fixing Cygwin issues is a valuable effort, it takes a lot of time and effort that is better spent elsewhere. Hi Austin: I agree that fixing Cygwin on Wine issues will take some considerable initial effort learning about Cygw

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > On 2013-07-01 19:58+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > >> --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: >> ... I hope your negative >>> >>> attitude >>> toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such >>> developers. After >>> all, even though the Wi

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-07-01 19:58+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... I hope your negative attitude toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such developers.  After all, even though the Windows GNU toolchain code bases have diverged between the two groups of developer

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 06:13:26PM +0200, Peter Rosin wrote: > > I would like to point out that it seems that the current bug does not > appear to be *in* setup.exe, but rather occurs when setup.exe runs > a bash post-install script, where the bash.exe that interprets the > script depends on cygwi

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Mon, 1/7/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... I hope your negative > attitude > toward the Cygwin toolchain is not typical of such > developers.  After > all, even though the Windows GNU toolchain code bases have > diverged > between the two groups of developers, there is still a > common interest

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-28 23:37, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > ... However, because of the Cygwin fork >> bug, Cygwin on >> Wine has largely been untested for the last three years so >> this could >> be a good opportunity to do such testing for the combination >> of Cyg

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-07-01 18:13+0200 Peter Rosin wrote: On 2013-06-29 18:33, Alan W. Irwin wrote: Those have been mentioned before here, and I have looked at them. Cygwin is a very large collection of software so the number of bugs that are reported does not seem excessive to me, and for my personal needs

Re: [wine-devel] Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-07-01 06:13+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: [...]In terms of "relative" importance, consider that mingw (both native and cross) GNU toolchain works well, the toolchain part of cygwin is hardly a priority. Once again you are implying the MinGW GNU toolchain is better than the Cygwin GNU toolc

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-29 18:33, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > Those have been mentioned before here, and I have looked at them. > Cygwin is a very large collection of software so the number of bugs > that are reported does not seem excessive to me, and for my personal > needs (building and testing software on the Cy

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Sun, 30/6/13, André Hentschel wrote: > On 29.06.2013 23:34, Hin-Tak Leung > wrote: > > --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin > wrote: > > > > ... > >>> Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other > windows > >> software > >> which has no unix/linux equivalents, is hardly a > priority. >

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... However, because of the Cygwin fork > bug, Cygwin on > Wine has largely been untested for the last three years so > this could > be a good opportunity to do such testing for the combination > of Cygwin > (with the fork fix) and recent Wine in case som

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 29.06.2013 23:34, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: > --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > > ... >>> Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other windows >> software >> which has no unix/linux equivalents, is hardly a priority. >> >> That is obviously personally true for you. And for my >> perso

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... > > Also, running cygwin on wine, compared to other windows > software > which has no unix/linux equivalents, is hardly a priority. > > That is obviously personally true for you.  And for my > personal needs > Cygwin on Wine is a "would be nice" soft

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-29 11:57+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... The Mingw GNU toolchain works wells under wine. The cygwin GNU toolchain don't, the last time I checked. That may be true, but the best way to make that point about the Cygwin GNU toolchain is with o

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Sat, 29/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... > > The Mingw GNU toolchain works wells under wine. The > cygwin GNU toolchain don't, the last time I checked. > > That may be true, but the best way to make that point about > the Cygwin > GNU toolchain is with official Cygwin bug reports rather > t

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-28 22:37+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... However, because of the Cygwin fork bug, Cygwin on Wine has largely been untested for the last three years so this could be a good opportunity to do such testing for the combination of Cygwin (with the

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-28 23:13+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... But I _know_ the MSYS version of cat works fine on recent Wine just like the rest of the GNU toolchain used for building software so if the MSYS and Cygwin GNU toolchain code bases have not diverged to

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Fri, 28/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: ... But I _know_ the MSYS version of cat works fine on recent > Wine just > like the rest of the GNU toolchain used for building > software so if > the MSYS and Cygwin GNU toolchain code bases have not > diverged too > much it should be straightforward (a

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-28 22:07+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Thu, 27/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: [...]I asked Arjen Markus, a PLplot colleague of mine with Cygwin contacts, to try and get the debugging process started with the Cygwin developers.  The response

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Thu, 27/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > On 2013-06-26 18:14-0700 Alan W. > Irwin wrote: > > > Note in retrospect I realized that this period leading > up to the > > release of Wine-1.6.0 has been a lousy time to ask wine > developers > > with Cygwin expertise to take on the additional > dist

Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-27 09:39-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: [...]I asked Arjen Markus, a PLplot colleague of mine with Cygwin contacts, to try and get the debugging process started with the Cygwin developers. The response to his post looks quite promising.

Re: [wine-devel] Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-26 18:14-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: Note in retrospect I realized that this period leading up to the release of Wine-1.6.0 has been a lousy time to ask wine developers with Cygwin expertise to take on the additional distraction of getting the debugging process for bug 24018 started wit

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

On 2013-06-26 23:43+0100 Hin-Tak Leung wrote: --- On Tue, 25/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: I currently have no experience with Cygwin and my only real interest in Cygwin on Wine is it theoretically provides an alternative build platform to my present successful work with the combination of MinG

Re: Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

--- On Tue, 25/6/13, Alan W. Irwin wrote: > I currently have no experience with Cygwin and my only real > interest > in Cygwin on Wine is it theoretically provides an > alternative build > platform to my present successful work with the combination > of MinGW, > MSYS, and Wine as a Windows build

Bug 24018 which appears to be a showstopper for running Cygwin on Wine

Andrey Turkin has stated at http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24018 that this is really a Cygwin bug. I frankly don't understand the technical details but his current test (an infinite loop with Cygwin fork calls) may need some beefing up to convince the Cygwin developers they have introduce