Vincent Povirk madewokherd+8...@gmail.com writes:
To abstract what you're saying here, you're suggesting to extend the
wineprefix ownership test to include $HOME when $WINEPREFIX is not set
and $HOME/.wine does not exist?
That doesn't sounds like a bad idea to me. But I'm not so sure about
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
Ben Klein wrote:
This is not a problem with Wine, this is OpenSUSE breaking the
environment when sudo is called. Remember, Wine is not the only X11
app out there. Others will need $DISPLAY working!
This is something called security
No, the
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:35:26AM -0500, Steve Brown wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
Ben Klein wrote:
This is not a problem with Wine, this is OpenSUSE breaking the
environment when sudo is called. Remember, Wine is not the only X11
app out there. Others will need
Steve Brown sbro...@umbc.edu wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
Ben Klein wrote:
This is not a problem with Wine, this is OpenSUSE breaking the
environment when sudo is called. Remember, Wine is not the only X11
app out there. Others will need $DISPLAY working!
This is
No we don't want Wine to function in those cases, and it is part of the
ownership test already.
wine: '/home/sudotest' is not owned by you, refusing to create a
configuration directory there
So it is. Well then, there's no need for an additional warning as far
as I'm concerned.
When was this
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Vincent Povirk
madewokherd+8...@gmail.com wrote:
No we don't want Wine to function in those cases, and it is part of the
ownership test already.
wine: '/home/sudotest' is not owned by you, refusing to create a
configuration directory there
So it is. Well
$ wine setup.exe # program doesn't work/error about admin rights/etc.
$ sudo wine setup.exe
wine: '/home/user/.wine' is not owned by you, refusing to create a
configuration directory there
$ sudo su
# wine setup.exe
Ok, if I understand you, one of the following things happens after that:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Vincent Povirk
madewokherd+8...@gmail.com wrote:
$ wine setup.exe # program doesn't work/error about admin rights/etc.
$ sudo wine setup.exe
wine: '/home/user/.wine' is not owned by you, refusing to create a
configuration directory there
$ sudo su
# wine
Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com writes:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Again, please demonstrate the exact sequence that leads to an actual
problem, not just vague hearsay of people reporting problems that may or
may not have anything to do with this.
Will this work? BTW default Open
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Ben Klein wrote:
[...]
Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
Interesting. xauth problem. Again, I'd be surprised if this happened
with sudo. Not so surprised if it
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com writes:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Again, please demonstrate the exact sequence that leads to an actual
problem, not just vague hearsay of people reporting problems that may or
may not have anything to do with this.
Will
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Vitaliy Margolen
wine-de...@kievinfo.com wrote:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com writes:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Again, please demonstrate the exact sequence that leads to an actual
problem, not just vague hearsay of people
Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com writes:
That's not the (main) problem. The main problem is people installing
stuff as root when they have no reason to do so.
Alexandre, how would you feel about a one time warning, e.g., by
setting a registry key, a la wineboot when run on a
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Alexandre Julliard
julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com writes:
That's not the (main) problem. The main problem is people installing
stuff as root when they have no reason to do so.
Alexandre, how would you feel about a one time
Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Alexandre Julliard
julli...@winehq.org wrote:
No, a warning that will get drowned in a bunch of other fixmes is not
useful.
We could make it a popup warning, again, only on first run.
No, warning message boxes
2009/2/10 Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Ben Klein wrote:
[...]
Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
Interesting. xauth problem. Again, I'd be surprised if this
How about this:
If uid = 0, SUDO_USER is set to a valid username, HOME is owned by
that user, and WINEPREFIX is not set, then refuse to start, printing a
message explaining the situation.
Perhaps the message can be something like
You're running Wine for the first time as root, but your home
2009/2/11 Vincent Povirk madewokherd+8...@gmail.com:
How about this:
If uid = 0, SUDO_USER is set to a valid username, HOME is owned by
that user, and WINEPREFIX is not set, then refuse to start, printing a
message explaining the situation.
To abstract what you're saying here, you're
Ben Klein wrote:
This is not a problem with Wine, this is OpenSUSE breaking the
environment when sudo is called. Remember, Wine is not the only X11
app out there. Others will need $DISPLAY working!
This is something called security
To abstract what you're saying here, you're suggesting to extend the
wineprefix ownership test to include $HOME when $WINEPREFIX is not set
and $HOME/.wine does not exist?
That doesn't sounds like a bad idea to me. But I'm not so sure about
specifically testing on UID=0 or SUDO_USER.
This
2009/2/11 Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com:
Ben Klein wrote:
This is not a problem with Wine, this is OpenSUSE breaking the
environment when sudo is called. Remember, Wine is not the only X11
app out there. Others will need $DISPLAY working!
This is something called security
This
Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com writes:
Didn't receive any feedback on this one last time. Been seeing this a
bit recently in the forums, so adding a warning. No actual
functionality lost.
We've been through this before. There are legitimate reasons for running
as root, and we don't
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 5:56 AM
To: Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com writes:
Didn't receive any feedback on this one last
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
Second, the problem is that newbies, figuring that their favorite
program will not run as an ordinary user, gets a wiff that root has
more privileges, will attempt run as root totally hosing their Wine
directory. This then starts the 'you
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:17 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 5:56 AM
To: Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
Austin
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:26 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com, wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
James Mckenzie wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:26 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com, wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
James Mckenzie
2009/2/9 James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Thus, the need for the warning. Experts tend to know what they are doing,
newbies don't for the most part. And yes, I borked many a system as a newbie
and as an expert (building kernels for RedHat/Fedora for my Thinkpad.
Yep. The
James Mckenzie wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
[...]
New wine installation:
su (no dash so root's environment is not picked up)
wine notepad
install various programs and use them.
exit
User logs in a second time after learning how to properly use Wine.
Attempt to
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
New wine installation:
su (no dash so root's environment is not picked up)
wine notepad
install various programs and use them.
exit
This shouldn't hurt anything. Please specify the exact platform and show
us the exact commands you are
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:45 AM
To: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
2009/2/9 James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net:
Thus, the need for the warning. Experts tend to know what they are doing
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:53 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com, wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
It would seem to me that the right place for this to go would be
not in Wine itself but in the likes of Crossover and Cedega - the
distributions and value added apps built around Wine.
I can't reconcile in my head the case where you have a newbie
running the latest GIT of Wine needing this kind
2009/2/9 Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com:
I can't reconcile in my head the case where you have a newbie
running the latest GIT of Wine needing this kind of thing at all.
It's frequently newbies running the WineHQ versions.
Again, I suggest reading the user forum to get an idea of why this
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
It does not hurt anything but Wine's reputation. I don't know, but
the phrase I would rather be run over rather than run down does
apply here. In other words, we should be getting positive responses
to user experiences, rather than dealing
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, James Mckenzie wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Please explain how running as root will screw their Wine directory. If
that's really true, surely it should be fixed instead of simply throwing
out a warning and proceeding.
New wine installation:
su
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
It does not hurt anything but Wine's reputation. I don't know, but
the phrase I would rather be run over rather than run down does
apply here. In other words, we
Chris Howe mrmess...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 8:06 AM
To: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
It would seem to me that the right place for this to go would be
not in Wine itself but in the likes of Crossover and Cedega
2009/2/10 Steve Brown sbro...@umbc.edu:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, James Mckenzie wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
Please explain how running as root will screw their Wine directory. If
that's really true, surely it should be fixed instead of simply throwing
out a warning and
Aurimas Fišeras auri...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:45 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
James Mckenzie wrote:
Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote:
[...]
New wine
Just realised something ...
2009/2/10 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com:
In the case of sudo wine whatever, $HOME is the originating user's
home directory, and `id -u` is 0. So this means that root-owned files
will appear in $HOME/.wine (assuming no WINEPREFIX is set).
In the case that there is
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
Aurimas Fišeras auri...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:45 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
James
Michael Stefaniuc mstef...@redhat.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:39 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
sudo rm -rf .wine
Solution is sudo chmod -R $username.$groupname .wine
Correct
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:35:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yes, there are legit reasons to run as root, one of them is the now famous
ICMP 'Ping' unavailability issue in Linux. Experts know about this and how
to work around it. Newbies, used to Windows
Austin English wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:58 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
Aurimas Fišeras auri...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 7:45 AM
To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: ntdll: add a warning about running
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net writes:
It does not hurt anything but Wine's reputation. I don't know, but
the phrase I would rather be run over rather than run down does
apply here. In other words, we should be getting positive responses
to user
2009/2/10 Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Again, please demonstrate the exact sequence that leads to an actual
problem, not just vague hearsay of people reporting problems that may or
may not have anything to do with this.
Will this work? BTW default Open
Ben Klein wrote:
2009/2/10 Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Again, please demonstrate the exact sequence that leads to an actual
problem, not just vague hearsay of people reporting problems that may or
may not have anything to do with this.
Will this work?
On Monday 09 February 2009 17:29:19 IneedAname wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:35:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yes, there are legit reasons to run as root, one of them is the now
famous ICMP 'Ping' unavailability issue in Linux. Experts know about
Didn't receive any feedback on this one last time. Been seeing this a
bit recently in the forums, so adding a warning. No actual
functionality lost.
--
-Austin
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