Motorola designed Canopy specifically for the WISP market, not the
carrier market.
Alvarion designed VL specifically for the carrier market, not the WISP
market.
Thanks,
Steve
On Apr 11, 2006, at 18:55, Dylan Oliver wrote:
How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it
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Motorola designed Canopy specifically for the WISP market, not the
carrier market.
Alvarion designed VL specifically for the carrier market, not the WISP
market.
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Ah, the mis-perceptions of the rugged metal enclosure =)
Steve, can you please explain why carriers would prefer a
Hello,
Maybe my math is off this morning, for lack of coffee but
2286 Kbit does not equal 22000 Kbit (2.286 Mbit does not equal 22
Mega bit.)
which is what I thought I saw at first glance.
So if that was KBYTE (which I think it is) instead of Kbit (Kb vs KB)
2286 KBYTE x 8 = 18288
John:
Here's my working definition of carrier grade:
Designed for use by carriers
Suitable for use by carriers
Sufficiently reliable for use by carriers
There is MUCH that goes into a product designed for use by carriers.
It's expensive and a tough market, so a lot of vendors don't try. Here
Actually 2,286 KBytes/sec is 22.86 mbps as compared to the way Telcos
rate their ADSL throughput, so I use the same x10 method.
The quote of 35 mbps and higher is between two radios whereas the copy
and paste shows through ten radios. Obviously to get 22 mbps at the
end there is a higher rate in
We found outsourcing tracking the customer billing was not a savings because
we have to much stuff linked to customer records, that would be just
replicating the work.
For example, having customerrecords links to tickets, scripting
provisioning, etc. or having Third party outsourced support
Anyone know any thing about HUD Block grants, these guys qualified for?
Looks like these guys got government funding from three different government
sources, including the feds to deploy broadband.
one of the most significant WiMAX deployments to date, regional Midwest
service provider
Lonnie,
Unfortuneately, not having UDP tests, does not allow accurate results. The
reason is that UDP will show the point at which packet loss will occur, and
at what percentage. Without that similar data, a TCP test is pointless. I
see some people do TCP speed tests (a method other than
PS. UDP tests usually need to be run with Dynamic Modulation features
disabled.
ISPs that delver telco grade services usually need to operate without
Dynamic moduilation anyway, to consistently guarantee the link capacity
available to tenants, and set at a speed that can deliver reliabilty
Blair,
I agree, our environments are different, each
allowing each of us to deliver different business models, each appropriate for
our own markets.
One of the things I'm learning is, as
awireless provider, I live in the wrong town:-)
I'd make more money in this business, if I moved to
This may be the case, but the test we perform seems to describe what
we see in real life use. As long as you have consistency it does not
matter what you do. The ability to compare apples to apples is what
is truly important, and since we began to use TCP many years ago, we
still continue to do
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/sf08457e.html#
As this requires a smart and intelligent response, and
as I've always been accused of being rude and obnoxious ( maybe I
should write technical manuals) I would like a template of some sorts
for all Canadian wisps to use.
Rick,
I'm sure you'd do well at anything you put your mind to, and I'm sure you
are capable.
However, the only advice I can give is...
The key to success is finding the time to manage your company. The only real
person that can be trusted to do that well are the people that have stake in
What we do is measure non compressible data and that becomes the
absolute max I will let someone ask for. That means with compressible
data we do better than they expect. No harm done, we figure.
Lonnie
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PS. UDP tests usually need to be run
One of the reasons to use Trango
is
All products, 900, 2.4, 5.3, 5.8. PTP,
allhave a common sceme.
Linktest command - to diagnose link
health.
Dual Polarity on the Fly - to quickly adapt, and
repairnetwork interference.
Low Price - For small communities deployments,
lowest CPE price
Lonnie,
Is the WAR/staros platform working PTMP or is it PTP?
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Here's the reply for all answers.
Look at the name of the association. WISPA. We are not carriers, we Do
Not get listed on the stock-exchange, we do not have money to burn. This
is the reason for our existence. We deliver the goods where these fools
fear to tread. A Microcell with 10 customers
Steve, excellent points. except... (also see inline)
By your definition of Carrier grade, I could argue that many WISPs that
just so happen not to use Alvarion, may very well better meet the definition
of carrier grade than the carriers themselves. One of the negatives about
the Alvarion
John,
I have to say, somewhat of an embaressing situation. I sent out a few
protests to my representatives as well, based on the press release.
We definately need to be clear on the understanding of this proposed bill.
If it is as good as the text posted most recently correctly the
I am planning to move to PPPoE with Radius backend. I have it all working on the bench. In fact, with a couple of differnet scenarios, which leads to the questions.
I am going to use Mikrotik at each POP, so will have 3 APs coming into the MT. Each AP on its own subnet.
Do you have Radius
Ok, assuming Real World Test win.
How does your TCP test handle packet loss? Does it slow the test down to
attempt to reduce packet loss until its gone?
Thats what real world applications do, like FTP, and the real performance
subscribers see, regardless of the Link's abilty to pass test
Tom,
I am confused about your testing. If you are testing a link, and it has
2% packet loss, then the link is going to run 2%-4% slower due to the
loss, therefore the results will reflect that loss.
Ever run a speed test across a link with 50% loss? If it's set to a
2Mbps connection, you
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Chad,
Based on your post, I just
I am missing something here. You say a TCP test runs full speed even
in the face of packet loss. My experience does not bear this out. We
see good results in our tests because we have links with little or no
packet loss. You can be assured that throughput results drop in the
face of packet
Tom,
The key to growth in business is hiring the right people.
You can successfully run more than one business at the same time with
capable employees - as well as processes, procedures and controls in
place. (This is the key to franchising and the E-Myth, btw).
Three problems:
1) Finding
Tom:
My defense of Alvarion is pretty mild. They're definitely drifting down
the innovation curve, not up. They're incredibly arrogant about not
doing Wi-Fi despite the growing, impressive wins of Wi-Fi mesh vendors.
They're not doing mesh, etc. They now are involved pretty deeply in the
I've always looked at Alvarion as being carrier grade or as close as
anything I've seen.
And they are a fine company.
George
Steve Stroh wrote:
Tom:
My defense of Alvarion is pretty mild. They're definitely drifting down
the innovation curve, not up. They're incredibly arrogant about
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